Don Fry Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Yes. Don't get much breast meat mind. Edited By Don Fry on 01/02/2020 06:35:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 There's an interesting (if inconclusive) article on the likely source of the infection here: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I heard on the radio news the other morning that every year about 1,250,000 die from flu. Yes, a one and a quarter million. Why are we not panicking every year at that. The world population has DOUBLED since 1976. We need a plague or two. Now if Ebola got out we would have cause to worry Edited By Peter Miller on 01/02/2020 08:37:06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Well it must be fairly serious for China to have 50 million people on lock-down. Also they know it will affect their economy by an estimated 1% to 6%, depending on how long it goes on. Not the sort of decision that would be taken on a whim. Don't see any reason to panic at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Posted by Peter Miller on 01/02/2020 08:33:32: I heard on the radio news the other morning that every year about 1,250,000 die from flu. Yes, a one and a quarter million. Why are we not panicking every year at that. The world population has DOUBLED since 1976. We need a plague or two. Alternately we need a cull on the older non-productive section of the population or a programme of neutering a section of the fertile/pre-fertile population. International unlucky numbers lottery perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stevens 1 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I wish people would stop scare-mongering on these things, current death rate is around 300 out of a population of 1.386 BILLION people in China. Hardly anything to be worried about, Flu kills more than that in the UK and Europe every year. The other thing is, a Virus is a very fragile living organism which requires a host and very specific conditions to survive, it can only survive for a very short time outside it's host before it dies. So if someone in China with the virus was to sneeze on the packet of your order, be it air freight (extremely cold conditions in an aircraft cargo hold) or on the slow boat for 3 weeks or more shut in a container with no chance of infecting anyone, the Likelihood is that the virus will be long dead before your package reaches you. Remember the panic over SARS and Bird Flu.......it didn't wipe us out either. In the immortal words of Lance Corporal Jones in Dad's Army - Don't Panic !! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 All I said in the beginning is don't expect goods from China to arrive anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Enjoying my Panic. But Mark, all you have told us is that it is impossible for one of these nasty illnesses to travel. And that constitutes an illogical statement. There have been "killer" pandemics in the past, and will be in the future. A bit of morbid curiosity does no harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Let's hope the new Elfite Twin Otter comes out in time... I want one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 This is not scare mongering. I personally have faith in our public health system and health service. But, I like to know what is going on and am not prepared to accept the 'warm words and fuzzy feelings' offered by officialdom to calm the people. Use some 'critical thinking'. What is going on and implemented does not match the claims that this is relatively unimportant. If this really gets out of control I think our problems will possibly be from secondary effects like the world economy, national economy, food imports(we import over 50% of the nations food) from other more affected nations, etc. I have spent many 10's of hours on this matter and I offer just a couple of links. You can dismiss or ridicule if you like, I have no desire to argue or convince you, but consider this; China now has the equivalent of population of the UK under lock -down and quarantine lasting for weeks, many countries around the world have now banned entry to visitors from China. How many of you could exist for 5 weeks, 3 weeks or even 1 week if you could not get out of your house to buy food? The Truth About the Coronavirus This is a general summary that does not get too technical Dr Paul Cottrell If you have the will and the time go back to the start of his videos on this. He is one of many medical contributors I have followed. Edited By GONZO on 02/02/2020 13:18:09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Latest video from Dr. John Campbell You may find his series of video's on this informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 The really crazy thing is when it comes to Influenza (which is circulating in the UK, is killing people and for which there is a vaccine) we really struggle to get people to have the vaccine. It's all about perception...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I do want to start arguments, but, just do a few fact check on Gonzo's sources. Then make your mind up on a swivel eye 1 to 10 score. Edited By Don Fry on 02/02/2020 20:50:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinFlynn Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Try editing that one again don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Posted by FlyinFlynn on 03/02/2020 13:04:50: Try editing that one again don Cheers, see it now, too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 corona virus dashboard, produced by John Hopkins Uni, shows numbers of reported cases, location, deaths, etc. **LINK** NY times has a useful "how bad will it be" graph comparing this virus to previous pandemic viruses. **LINK** graph itself: the graph seems to suggest the wuhan virus is about as contagious as the average deadly disease, but, significantly less deadly. Edited By Nigel R on 03/02/2020 16:40:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 " Use some 'critical thinking'. What is going on and implemented does not match the claims that this is relatively unimportant." Actually, what is going on is the Chinese initial response to a disease with unknown mortality and apparent high contagion, which seems fairly proportionate. I would suggest examining the numbers and hard data to see for yourself whether it is unimportant or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIGGER Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The question is, should we be worried about items coming from China, if so what precautions should we take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The other day I heard on the news that every year 1,250,000.that is one and a quarter million people die from flu. May be I am wrong but the current kerfuffle does smack a little of panic to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Posted by Peter Miller on 05/02/2020 13:48:45: The other day I heard on the news that every year 1,250,000.that is one and a quarter million people die from flu. May be I am wrong but the current kerfuffle does smack a little of panic to me. I think that the worry with new / animal inherited viruses is their ability to evolve into something worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Member Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 [This posting has been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Posted by Steve J on 05/02/2020 15:19:01: From the government publichealthmatters blog - "There is no current evidence to suggest that the virus can be transmitted from (post/packages/parcels) from China." Not an expression that fills me with confidence that! At one point, I'm sure there was "no current evidence to suggest" that asbestos or smoking or thalidomide or excessive alcohol or Harold Shipman were harmful..... Having said that, I would have no worries about opening a Chinese package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Gary, not even a mail order bride?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Posted by GONZO on 05/02/2020 16:51:03: Gary, not even a mail order bride?? I got mine from Thailand, so I should be OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIGGER Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Posted by Steve J on 05/02/2020 15:19:01: From the government publichealthmatters blog - "There is no current evidence to suggest that the virus can be transmitted from (post/packages/parcels) from China." Thank you for this, here in Cyprus we depend on rc goods from UK and China as we don't have good model shops in my part of the island. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.