Jon H Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 For the first time in over 50 years there is a Hawker Tempest airworthy again. A MkII with its proper (and very rare) Centaurus engine. Looking forward to seeing it on the airshow circuit next year! https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=712860650880508&set=a.457726916393884 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 What we have all been waiting for 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 One close to being airworthy in Canada too I believe. I'm hopeful one will be at Flying Legends next year...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, GrumpyGnome said: One close to being airworthy in Canada too I believe. I'm hopeful one will be at Flying Legends next year...... I think there is another somewhere too...NZ maybe? I am sure there were 3 MkII's on the go but this one is the only one with the correct engine. In any case, its a monster of thing. The longer wing vs the sea fury is very apparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Carpenter Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 RN couldn’t keep those Centaurus reliable. Think the Sea Fury might be getting P&W or a Wright ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Lovely - but what I'd love to see - and more importantly hear - is a Sabre engined MkV. I may have to make do with the Tiffie that's being restored with a Sabre though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I think that it is the availability of spares is the issue with Centaurs today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Very Nice, sure is a big beast of an aircraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: Lovely - but what I'd love to see - and more importantly hear - is a Sabre engined MkV. I may have to make do with the Tiffie that's being restored with a Sabre though! 7 minutes ago, J D 8 said: I think that it is the availability of spares is the issue with Centaurs today. Apparently Merlin engines and parts are quite abundant. This includes new old stock engines still inhibited since manufacture and never run a day in their lives. Less prolific engines are a problem though. The Typhoon restoration mob in Canada have been very quiet about their engine plans, but they have two partial sabre engines (one crashed one cutaway) and i think their plan is to just build a new engine from scratch. This makes total sense to me given modern materials and processes are so much better. If they can do it why not make 2...or 3, or 10...Kermit Weeks has a MkV Tempest airframe and 2 original Sabres. The group who just fixed up the MkII here have a MkV in storage too. It could be done. As i have said before, i think it is getting to the point where the regulators need to have a chat and authorise the manufacture of new engines/engine parts for these aircraft. Most warbird accidents these days are down to engine failure, often at low altitude due to their airshow flying nature, so it has to be a bonus for safety to have a newly manufactured engine fitted made with modern materials and processes. I know some will cry about provenance, but with very few exceptions most warbirds flying today are more or less complete new builds with a name tag riveted to them at the end anyway. And as Martin says, i want to see/hear a Sabre engine flying about the place. I dont care if its an original one or a new one. Its still a sabre and i still want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chris Freeman 3 said: Very Nice, sure is a big beast of an aircraft Really shows it size when it dwarfs the mustang taxing in front of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 That makes one hell of a good noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Jon - Laser Engines said: Apparently Merlin engines and parts are quite abundant. This includes new old stock engines still inhibited since manufacture and never run a day in their lives. Less prolific engines are a problem though. The Typhoon restoration mob in Canada have been very quiet about their engine plans, but they have two partial sabre engines (one crashed one cutaway) and i think their plan is to just build a new engine from scratch. This makes total sense to me given modern materials and processes are so much better. If they can do it why not make 2...or 3, or 10...Kermit Weeks has a MkV Tempest airframe and 2 original Sabres. The group who just fixed up the MkII here have a MkV in storage too. It could be done. As i have said before, i think it is getting to the point where the regulators need to have a chat and authorise the manufacture of new engines/engine parts for these aircraft. Most warbird accidents these days are down to engine failure, often at low altitude due to their airshow flying nature, so it has to be a bonus for safety to have a newly manufactured engine fitted made with modern materials and processes. I know some will cry about provenance, but with very few exceptions most warbirds flying today are more or less complete new builds with a name tag riveted to them at the end anyway. And as Martin says, i want to see/hear a Sabre engine flying about the place. I dont care if its an original one or a new one. Its still a sabre and i still want it. The Typhoon RB396 project has a zero hours crated Napier Sabre engine https://hawkertyphoon.com/gallery/rebuild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, Outrunner said: The Typhoon RB396 project has a zero hours crated Napier Sabre engine https://hawkertyphoon.com/gallery/rebuild yep, they got it from cranfield if i recall. The issue is the only have the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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