FiddleSticks Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Nothing bothers me really. I prefer spare radio channels that can be used for other things - gear, lights, etc. Why use one on a 2nd aileron servo? Y lead is just dandy as far as i'm concerned but a single servo will do the job too. I'm not fussy! My sons little DeltaRayOne (which flies great) only has two PCB mounted servos which are essentially motorized potentiometer sliders with push rods attached and the ESC. IT flies awesomely and wasn't keen to work with elevons being setup on my DX7 so I'm assuming that they may be wired to a single channel. If it can be done from the one channel then why not? - then you have other channels to play with. I guess ultimately it depends on the model you're flying and your personal preference. For me a radio with 10+ channels would be ideal but I'm stuck with 7 (and believe me, I'd make use of them channels and still be short) but some people might not be bothered by that and prefer the control over two ailerons from the TX. I'm one of those with single child syndrome.. If I see it I want it. A decent model for me would have retracts and steerable nose gear, ailerons, flaps, elevator and rudder (so thats 5 used already inc the throttle), lights, afterburners (ok they can be linked to throttle with a small switch) air brake and then I'd still want more spare channels for other gimmicks that might pop up. I can't help it, I had a boring childhood, I love gimmicks and novelties! Cutting down on that aileron servo would be a big thing for me but at the same time I can appreciate having independent control of two aileron servos and that's also a gimmick to me so it qualifies as awesome in its own right and despite wanting to save a channel, still deserves that extra channel lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 My philosophy is different - I would always use a separate channel unless I had good reason not to. A couple of weeks ago, I modified a model to use as a toffee bomber and stole an aileron channel for the release servo. The temporary Y lead came out the moment I removed the sweetie container… Complex model - I use a bigger receiver but my transmitter supports up to 24 channels so I think I can understand your logic with only 7 available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: My philosophy is different - I would always use a separate channel unless I had good reason not to. A couple of weeks ago, I modified a model to use as a toffee bomber and stole an aileron channel for the release servo. The temporary Y lead came out the moment I removed the sweetie container… Complex model - I use a bigger receiver but my transmitter supports up to 24 channels so I think I can understand your logic with only 7 available. I thought aircraft dropping payloads wasn't allowed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Perfectly legal unless causing endangerment: Dropping of articles and animals89. —(1) Articles and animals (whether or not attached to a parachute) must not be dropped, or permitted to drop, from an aircraft in flight so as to endanger persons or property. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: Perfectly legal unless causing endangerment: Dropping of articles and animals89. —(1) Articles and animals (whether or not attached to a parachute) must not be dropped, or permitted to drop, from an aircraft in flight so as to endanger persons or property. Are you sure about that? - Point 12 on this page from the Civil Aviation Authority explicitly states the oppoiste: https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/drone-code/making-every-flight-safe Quote 12. Never drop, lower or fire anything from your drone or model aircraft while it’s flying Seems clear enough to me yet even at the model airshows you see planes dropping fake bombs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) 17 minutes ago, FiddleSticks said: Are you sure about that? - Point 12 on this page from the Civil Aviation Authority explicitly states the oppoiste: https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/drone-code/making-every-flight-safe Seems clear enough to me yet even at the model airshows you see planes dropping fake bombs etc. Yes, but if you are a BMFA member you fly under the terms of the "Article 16 Authorisation" issued to the BMFA by the CAA. That states "3.14 Dropping of Articles (1) Only insofar as it relates to the dropping of material, model aircraft operations are exempt from the requirements in UK Regulation (EU) 2019/947 Article 4(1)(f), subject to the condition that: a) The remote pilot must not cause or permit any article or animal to be dropped from an unmanned aircraft so as to endanger persons or property." So it is just an issue of endangerment for members of the BMFA and a few other organisations with their own "Article 16 Authorisation". Dick Edited September 10 by Dickw clarification 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Thanks Dick - my quote was from the wrong source and yours is more authoritative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Thanks @Dickw that makes sense now. So BMFA get to do so but non BMFA don't. Fair enough! Thanks for clearing that up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 BMFA, LMA, SAA and FPV-UK members are all exempt from some of the general requirements, including the dropping of articles, under article 16 of the ANO. There may be other organisations that have applied that I'm unaware of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Who are LMA and SAA then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Large Model Association and Scottish Aeromodellers Association. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 It's also illegal here in France, but here laws are there to ignore,,,😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Hold on - it's legal to drop an animal from a model plane? Guinea pigs with parachutes anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Legal as far as the CAA are concerned but I don’t fancy your chances with the animal welfare lobby! There’s more drift in this thread than a gerbil under a full sized ‘chute in a hurricane. Perhaps it’s time to get back to Y leads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: Perhaps it’s time to get back to Y leads? I have a hunch there isn't really much more to say on the issue really. In the few days that i've been back here since my hiatus after joining, i've noticed it isn't the most buzzing of forums. Shame really as RC stuff is super awesome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 That's 'cos we're building, flying, or working, and forumites often think about stuff before posting snd commenting. Which I think is good as it prevents some of the absolute rubbish, misinformation, and bad manners found on other social media. RCGroups has many many more posts but is far less friendly.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 hours ago, GrumpyGnome said: some of the absolute rubbish, misinformation, and bad manners found on other social media. As much as i love facebook I completely agree with you. There's a lot of fake crap on there deliberately misinforming people. As for the "We're building, flying or working" thing... lucky! My shed is full of tat (tools, car parts etc) so space to build is non-existent. Flying.. well.. weather hasn't been great lately and work is part time for me as i'm a stay at home dad...slowly encouraging my son into RC planes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payneib Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 hours ago, FiddleSticks said: . space to build is non-existent. That's what dining tables are for. Use a section of kitchen top offcut as a build board you can put away. 3 hours ago, FiddleSticks said: slowly encouraging my son into RC planes!!! I highly recommend having a stab at control line - my kids love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleSticks Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 8 hours ago, payneib said: That's what dining tables are for. Use a section of kitchen top offcut as a build board you can put away. Doesn't work in this house, I get told off if the kitchen table is not tidy. The lady of the manor has come home this evening and it's covered with tools and hardware while i'm trying to repair damage to a plastic bumper on my car... she was not impressed! As far as she is concerned, the kitchen table is for dining and dining only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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