Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I think you have hit the nail on the head John. These folks are just not like us, they don't have the same interest. Our confusion comes from assuming they are aeromodellers and judging them by our norms.To us a kit is for building and flying - that's its whole reason for being. But while they may have been aeromodellers in an earlier life, now they are collectors. To them it is all about completing a collection. If you have all the KK kits from years x to y except one, then you will pay dearly to have that one! Its a compulsion - as you say completing the collection is what "floats their boat". We'll never understand it - but then why should we? Afterall they will never understand us. Somewhere, on a collectors' forum, there's bloke writing about how horrified he is at our willingness to "destroy" a precious item by cutting out all the wood, sticking it together, puting an engine in it then chucking it into the air! It takes all sorts.... BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Posted by John Privett on 05/11/2012 23:03:20: . Personally I don't see the point, and I read a magazine article some while ago about one of the big model store owner's personal collection with a mixture of amazement and sadness. Amazement that he had collected so much old modelling gear, but sadness that none of it would ever be used for the purpose it was manufactured but was destined just to sit on a I saw that article. What really amazed me was that he had duplicates of so many items. I suppose that was for tradeing possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I do hear what you say, though I cannot understand the value set, it does appear to be distorted to the point of being dysfunctional. Then again I can appreciate many paintings, that hang in many museums. Yet cannot comprehend that the value and worth is dependant on the signature, rather than the picture. The opinion of a small cadre of experts propelling the value into the millions or condemning the piece almost to the car boot sale. I have an old Canadian kit of a rubber Monocoupe, which may be of value, by some standards. If true, I just cannot ethically bring myself to sell such an artefact at a astronomical price. Then again, I am of to the box room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Fledermaus Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Here's an odd one. Why would anyone want one at £50 each, let alone two. Not much good without the rest of the DC8. The other model aircraft he has for sale are nice though - at a price Link Edited By Colin Ashman on 07/11/2012 14:45:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chambers Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Posted by John Privett on 05/11/2012 23:03:20: Personally I don't see the point, and I read a magazine article some while ago about one of the big model store owner's personal collection with a mixture of amazement and sadness. Amazement that he had collected so much old modelling gear, but sadness that none of it would ever be used for the purpose it was manufactured but was destined just to sit on a shelf for ever more. Still, if that's what floats yer boat... That was about Ali senior of Als Hobbies wasn't it? I can't remember which issue it was in though, must have been at least 3-4 years ago. Si. Edit: April 2009 - Page 45 I think there a was an article in a BMFA newletter too in more detail about it at some point in the past. Edited By Simon Chambers on 07/11/2012 15:42:07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Correct, Simon. And that's the exact article I was thinking of. I don't recall one in the BMFA News though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob..... Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 yes,i remember the 1 in the bmfa,it was in the form of an interview.hundreds of old kits just sitting on shelves. rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 That's pretty-much what the RCM&E artcle shows Bob. If you're a subscriber you can view the RCM&E article in the digital archive on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Looking at the price old kits go for on EBay. That is quite a pension fund on his shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 An honest description! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksboy Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I've recently sent a message to the seller 987jill, who is selling several engines and all are desribed as 'Vintage'. I asked him why the Thunder Tiger GP42 was described as vintage when it was still availalble from the shops. He replied 'BECAUSE I DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM' In that case, why does he describe them as 'Vintage'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Kearney Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Looks like an Aerokits Sea Nymph to me, sweet little boat. I just built one from a modern laser cut kit for my son. He says pre RC, how does that work then? Were they run tethered, round-the-poll style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Fledermaus Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Posted by Bucksboy on 08/11/2012 09:52:12: I've recently sent a message to the seller 987jill, who is selling several engines and all are desribed as 'Vintage'. I asked him why the Thunder Tiger GP42 was described as vintage when it was still availalble from the shops. He replied 'BECAUSE I DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM' In that case, why does he describe them as 'Vintage'? Yep, I was the one who told her that the vintage Thunder Tiger she was listing was a SC36 and a current model at that by the look of it. Just because it's in a Thunder Tiger box don't make it a Thunder Tiger. Still there are people bidding on it who probably know what it is - I hope. In her position I would have changed the description, so there is no confusion LINK Edited By Colin Ashman on 08/11/2012 10:10:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm woodcock 1 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I like the entries from 'Altare5', over 20, no pictures, no description, cost £45.00 and what ever you don't waste his time with any stupid questions. I presume it free insertions this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It was - I've listed loads of stuff we are getting rid of! no modelling stuff though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Posted by Robin Kearney on 08/11/2012 09:53:10: Looks like an Aerokits Sea Nymph to me, sweet little boat. I just built one from a modern laser cut kit for my son. He says pre RC, how does that work then? Were they run tethered, round-the-poll style? No, they were just free running. Must have been interesting. Hope it didn't hit the side of the pond too hard. They did have radio in those days of course...if you could afford it. I saw thenm on the Round Pond in Kensington Gardens. Every year they used to drain the round pond and collect all the sunken boats and put them out for people to collect. Not usre how you proved they were yours or if it was pot luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chambers Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Posted by Colin Ashman on 08/11/2012 10:06:54: Posted by Bucksboy on 08/11/2012 09:52:12: I've recently sent a message to the seller 987jill, who is selling several engines and all are desribed as 'Vintage'. I asked him why the Thunder Tiger GP42 was described as vintage when it was still availalble from the shops. He replied 'BECAUSE I DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM' In that case, why does he describe them as 'Vintage'? Yep, I was the one who told her that the vintage Thunder Tiger she was listing was a SC36 and a current model at that by the look of it. Just because it's in a Thunder Tiger box don't make it a Thunder Tiger. Still there are people bidding on it who probably know what it is - I hope. In her position I would have changed the description, so there is no confusion LINK Edited By Colin Ashman on 08/11/2012 10:10:45 Maybe she's just a modellers widow (or divorcee?) trying to sell a load of old stuff? They could be vintage as they've been cluttering up the house so long. Si. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 ..but knows enough to describe one as a VINTAGE MODEL AERO ENGINE FROG 500 GLOW THICK LUG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devcon1 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Look at this one !!!!!! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Keil-Kraft-Slicker-50-Kit-1950-1960-/140878456618 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Posted by Peter Miller on 08/11/2012 08:41:00: An honest description! You know, reading that description, I began to feel quite sorry for the poor little boat. It almost made me bid on it to "rescue" it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area 51 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Get it bought.. you know it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think this guy has typed backwards - £96.90 for a plane priced at €69.90 here Edited By Daithi O Buitigh on 22/11/2012 19:22:05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 You can have fun on the German advert - you can run the small window from the nose of the model to the tail and make it look like its flying! Probably more fun than you'd have with the real thing! BEB PS Ok - yes - I'm bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Enginex sellers seem to use Vintage for anything that isn't current production. Now they are using "rare" for everything. Is this engine rare? I don't really thinks so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Why on the whole earth would anyone buy this? Not been used, but missing main bits of the engine+needle, and a silly asking price for £100!!! **LINK** Edited By Paul Marsh on 26/11/2012 09:15:29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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