Dave Hopkin Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Or at least I hope they do..... Read the contents descriptions... **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 They forgot the bin bag John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamWh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Includes "a Tourniquet (use this to stop the blood flow when amputating a limb)" Handy I suppose if we want to start cutting each others arms or legs off. Can't say it happens much at our club! Wonder if they include a suitable saw. A few plasters seems a sensible idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The most useful item is a tubegauze bandage and applicator. The best and easiest way to bandage a chopped finger. I keep one in my car kit and it has been used on several occasions over the years on several club members. Just an interesting side comment. When needed I am the one who applies it, even when it is my finger that needs it. Funny, that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hesitant to mention the word in March but would make a nice stocking filler for the modeller in your life at Xmas.... I did wonder why they thought a spare MHz aerial might be useful until I read the description Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Posted by Peter Miller on 11/03/2015 12:16:00: The most useful item is a tubegauze bandage and applicator. The best and easiest way to bandage a chopped finger. And here was me thinking that what the CA included in the pack was for! Seriously I keep a full first aid kit in my car together with a (unopened) bottle of water (replaced regullarly) as there is clean water source at the sites I fly from - something for people to consider how would you flush a wound out or irigate someones eye etc etc etc Never had to use them and I hope it stays that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's just 21 days too early...... Edited By kc on 11/03/2015 19:30:40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 They forgot to include a Gideons' Bible.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 they can't spell "fraught" though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Why is the Swiss flag on the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Marshall Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Normally first-aid kits are in a green box. This is in a Grey box- presumably because of the cable-ties? (Although they look a bit small to me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The question of the Swiss flag was raised and the answer is that you aren't allowed to put a Red Cross (Crescent, Star of David, whatever) unless it actually IS a Red Cross outfit. However, as the Red Cross was founded by a Swiss and they actually use the Swiss flag with the colours reversed, that's why it's there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Alcohol swabs (not a beer replacement) and latex gloves (up to you what you want to use these for)....lol I have to say, that amusing descriptions aside this is actually an excellent product. First aid for both you and your model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josip Vrandecic -Mes Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 One interesting fact here in Croatia, an car first aid set is twice more expensive.... and not so useful... Edited By Josip Vrandecic -Mes on 12/03/2015 12:31:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Lots of much better frst aid kits on Ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And they have priced it just in the value that our friends at customs look at ! By the time postage is added you will probably get a bill from C&E for vat and a handling charge from royal mail totaling £11 plus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename-John Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Posted by Engine Doctor on 12/03/2015 17:16:50: And they have priced it just in the value that our friends at customs look at ! By the time postage is added you will probably get a bill from C&E for vat and a handling charge from royal mail totaling £11 plus ! Or you could mark it down to a cheaper value on checkout and not get charged anything extra, If HSBC can get away with Tax "Avoidance" why shouldn`t we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Posted by Pete B - Moderator on 11/03/2015 12:52:51: I did wonder why they thought a spare MHz aerial might be useful until I read the description Pete I've got one those stored on the anglepoise lamp over my bench by its magnet. I bought it from one of the tool stalls at a show years ago. Don't need it often but it's worth it's weight in gold (almost) when it is. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Posted by Codename-John on 12/03/2015 20:28:45: Posted by Engine Doctor on 12/03/2015 17:16:50: And they have priced it just in the value that our friends at customs look at ! By the time postage is added you will probably get a bill from C&E for vat and a handling charge from royal mail totaling £11 plus ! Or you could mark it down to a cheaper value on checkout and not get charged anything extra, If HSBC can get away with Tax "Avoidance" why shouldn`t we. You used to be able to do that but not any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstreak.keith Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 they forgot the cyano debonder, stuck my thumb and first finger to an elevator once after a field repair. went home with 2 patches of orange nylon attached to them.the repair then included insulating tape to cover the holes left behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename-John Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Posted by Daithi O Buitigh on 12/03/2015 21:34:06: Posted by Codename-John on 12/03/2015 20:28:45: Posted by Engine Doctor on 12/03/2015 17:16:50: And they have priced it just in the value that our friends at customs look at ! By the time postage is added you will probably get a bill from C&E for vat and a handling charge from royal mail totaling £11 plus ! Or you could mark it down to a cheaper value on checkout and not get charged anything extra, If HSBC can get away with Tax "Avoidance" why shouldn`t we. You used to be able to do that but not any longer Really ? I haven't ordered anything from there for a while, when did it stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted hughes Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Posted by GrahamWh on 11/03/2015 11:55:20: Includes "a Tourniquet (use this to stop the blood flow when amputating a limb)" Handy I suppose if we want to start cutting each others arms or legs off. Can't say it happens much at our club! Wonder if they include a suitable saw. A few plasters seems a sensible idea though. Have you ever seen an artery cut? I have, but only a small artery in a hand. Even so, it was a medical emergency. We have two types of blood vessels, arteries and veins. The veins return spent blood to the heart at low pressure, arteries send oxygenated blood to the body at high pressure. Arteries are under such high pressure that a cut will not just bleed, but spurt blood out in pulses with the heart beat. Modern thinking is to put high pressure on the leak site, however if the wound won't allow this a tourniquet higher up will stop the bleeding, if you can't stop the bleeding death will result in minutes. The average modeler does not need a first aid kit, but I would guess that if an emergency happens, you will wish you had one! The best piece of equipment is a phone with a signal, to get a first responder out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 It happened last year John - the box that let you select a lower price on the invoice was dropped. I know that, not long before that, that German customs were demanding to see paypal statements before releasing the goods so it's possible that a rap on the knuckles occured However, at £12.83, it is below the VAT threshold of £15. The VAT on postage (and handling fee) only kicks in if the value of the goods themselves is over £15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Posted by ted hughes on 13/03/2015 01:34:28: Posted by GrahamWh on 11/03/2015 11:55:20: Includes "a Tourniquet (use this to stop the blood flow when amputating a limb)" Handy I suppose if we want to start cutting each others arms or legs off. Can't say it happens much at our club! Wonder if they include a suitable saw. A few plasters seems a sensible idea though. Have you ever seen an artery cut? I have, but only a small artery in a hand. Even so, it was a medical emergency. We have two types of blood vessels, arteries and veins. The veins return spent blood to the heart at low pressure, arteries send oxygenated blood to the body at high pressure. Arteries are under such high pressure that a cut will not just bleed, but spurt blood out in pulses with the heart beat. Modern thinking is to put high pressure on the leak site, however if the wound won't allow this a tourniquet higher up will stop the bleeding, if you can't stop the bleeding death will result in minutes. The average modeler does not need a first aid kit, but I would guess that if an emergency happens, you will wish you had one! The best piece of equipment is a phone with a signal, to get a first responder out. The chances of any tramatic wound needing a torniquet in normal flight activiies is pretty remote - even a amputated finger wont need one but....... Tourniquet application is frowned upon in medical circles due to the risk of starving the area below of oxygenated blood if the torniquet is applied for any length of time, and the recomended procedure is to apply heavy pressure to the artery through the fllesh above and on the wound site normally through a dressing pad (your hands loose grip if they are covered in blood However if a torniquet is te only option to stop the bleed whilst waiting fhe casualty to recieve medical help then it can be used, but it should be applied for 10 to 15 mins then released for a few seconds before being retightened - the time of the iniial application of the tourniquet should be written on the casualties forehead (dont worry about finding apen - in those circumstances you have a finger and there will be plenty of red "ink" around!) But the critical thing is to get proper medical assistance ASAP - in severe trauma injuries there is a "golden hour" (and a platinum 10 minutes) where proper treatment can make a world of difference But I totally disagree about not needing a first aid kit - in my opinion there should be one available at every flying field whenever people are flying - as we cant always reply on "Johny the first aid kit bloke" being at the field the more people that carry them the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just as a point of interest. I did cut an artery on the field but it was a very tiny one in my left forefinger knuckle. Did not realise it was an artery but when it was still bleeding several hours later I went to A&E where they put two stitches in. When it first happened I went back to the car in the farmyard and did my own first air. The farmer's dog got very excited and kept indicating "OOH! Fresh meat for tea" I have also had the same reaction from our own dogs when I came in from the workshop pouring blood from a gash. "OOH! Fresh meat. Can I have some please?!" I also remember that about 50 years ago my mother was doing some gardening and took the side off her finger with a sickle and that artery was pumping well. The doctor arrived in a rush and bound it up which seemed to do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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