Peter Miller Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 I am still waiting for the publication of a previous plan so I can't even beging to imagine when it will be published. I have called it Ballerina after people said that the previous name was had unpleasant connections because they didn't know anything about my original choice There are lots of examples of models having the same name. Names are not copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I am the guilty party who mentioned the Columbine connection! I look forward to buying the magazine and getting the plan.....high on my list of projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well KC you were probably right to do so, it would seem that most people associated the name with that event. I don't mind, it is a nicer name...and it stays!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Interesting that you used spruce stringers for the turtle deck Peter rather than your usual rolled balsa sheet. Like it. I can see that I will have to crack on and finish my Alley Cat build before the Ballerina plan is published. I have been meaning to build a Miss Lizzy for years and Dragon Dancer 2 is on the list as well. Oh well, too many models, so little time! Edited By Piers Bowlan on 13/09/2015 08:33:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 I got lazy!!! Anyway it is easier!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 I have just been told that Ballerina will be in the December issue of RCM&E. Getyour wood togetherfor a Christmas building session!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm clearing the modelling bench ready for the December Ballerina plan. Just got to finish an electrified balsa Wot 4 (a tight fit with a 4s 5000 lipo). On Ballerina I'm not sure whether to use IC or use *lectric, it rather depends on the model weight I guess as I have standardised on 2 lipo sizes (the other is 3S 2200). so if it needs something in between -I'll go IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Ballerina weighs 71 ounces, has a wing area of 553 sq. in and a wing loading of 18 1/2 ounces per sq. ft. The blurb on "Coming next month " is wrong, My model is powered more than adequately with an OS FS 40 Surpass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Thomas Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I will be partaking in this years mass build for the first time. And the way it's looking the ballerina will be the model chosen. This will be my first scratch built model from a plan. I have built a couple of cnc kits before but this time I would like to just cut all parts myself. Is there a a shopping list on the plan with a list of what wood I will need for the build. It's just I would like to get the wood in with one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Glad to know that you will be joining the build. There isn't a deidcated wood list I am afraid that when I build I just take sheets out of stock but also I use my scrap box a lot and so t gets mixed up. There is an article on the FOrum. I think it is called "Wouldn't you like to know" Or "Woodn't you like to know" which covers estimating materials in some detail.. I will see if I can find it. Yes, Found it. Edited By Peter Miller on 15/11/2015 08:16:52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I might build the Ballerina. Suppose to build the model I've almost finished over the Xmas period. So looks like it may the next one. Do have a few spare OS 40FS's and Saito 45 Specials. Possible of putting a OS Wankel in it, as have 6 on the shelf waiting for planes... Does look like the Maher's Pacer, including the colour scheme. I've got the Pacer with a OS Gemini flat twin in it. Needs a 2.4 rx to fly again. Edited By Paul Marsh on 22/11/2015 18:16:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Great MInds think alike!!! Should go like a rocket on a Wankle. Especially if it is the later one with the carb out the outside of the case, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craig Thomas Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Should the ballerina be chosen for the Mass Build, it's looking that way I need to think abound engines. At the moment I have a spare os46 ax 2 stroke in the garage. Would this be a suitable choice? I know it's slightly bigger than the recommended size but I'm just trying to save spending out on a new engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Surprising that nobody has replied yet. I reckon a 46AX would be quite OK although a bit more powerful than needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well, the 46AX would make it go like a rocket. However this may help with your decision. My Dancing Queen from Traplet was fitted with a Wankle and it also had an Eagle Tree G meter. Just to find out how strong it was I did a lng dive and full power full up elevator pull out. The G meter recorded 24.8 G. The model was completely undamaged. I would say that that proves how strong the standard construction I use is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Marsh Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Going to build it anyway. Have most of the wood in, except some ply for the doublers, but plenty of liteply and ply for the firewall - which I get from work for free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Could someone pleas tell me how heavy the OS 40 4 stroke with silencer is? I'm planning to go electric and need to calculate to get the balance right, but can't find the info on the net. Edited By i12fly on 24/11/2015 23:27:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Posted by i12fly on 24/11/2015 23:26:12: Could someone pleas tell me how heavy the OS 40 4 stroke with silencer is? I'm planning to go electric and need to calculate to get the balance right, but can't find the info on the net. Edited By i12fly on 24/11/2015 23:27:27 It says here 11.4 oz but it doesn't say if it's with or without exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 The silencer doesn't weigh much anyway, probably les than half an ounce. Can't measure mine because they are in models but got another arriving today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Actually it says here the FS 40S weighs 12.5 ounces plus .7 for silencer so 13.2 oz total. An actual OS 46AX two stroke weighs 17.75 oz = quite a lot heavier but more powerful for comparison a 4S3000 Lipo weighs about 11.75oz and a motor such as a 3536 or 3542 about 5 oz so total almost 17 oz. again heavier but the weight in the Lipo inevitably comes further aft. Edited By kc on 25/11/2015 13:30:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levanter Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have an OS FS 30S and an OS FS 48S but nothing in between. If I build Ballerina really light will I get away with the 30 and if I use the 48 will I need to scale up the aircraft. If I do scale up I would go the whole hog like Martyn K Otherwise I had better buy one before there is a global shortage if my hunch is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I've decided to put a OS 60 FS in it. Also have a SC 52 FS, which if the OS is too big will use that. Also will use 2 servos on the ailerons - like I did with the Jezebel - I don't like bell cranks and two servos gives finer tx adjustments. Edited By Paul Marsh on 25/11/2015 18:51:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Posted by Levanter3 on 25/11/2015 18:39:07: I have an OS FS 30S and an OS FS 48S but nothing in between. If I build Ballerina really light will I get away with the 30 and if I use the 48 will I need to scale up the aircraft. If I do scale up I would go the whole hog like Martyn K Otherwise I had better buy one before there is a global shortage if my hunch is correct. The .48 will be fine, I have other similar models flying on the .48 and even a.52 FS would not be too much. I feel that the .60 FS might start to lose the character of the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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