Peter Miller Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Try putting the laser cut parts on the plan and see how far out they are. You might just be surprised that they fit the plan. Too old to start designing? CODSWALLOP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Yes they fit the plan But the formers are cut at a right angle so need sanding to the angle of the fuselage side. Then I found that the triangle stock varies along its length forming a taper towards one end. I got around that by adding thin bits a scrap packing. We are only talking in terms of 1/32". Are you shouting and swearing? As I said to the doctor 'it only hurts when I laugh but that does not happen often' Peter you do make it so much more fun. I have fitted one more former so I am doing well today Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Posted by Fun Flyer on 14/10/2020 10:00:50: I think everyone hits a wall at some point with every build. I found the wings to be a challange but yours seemed to just slip together. Keep going. The RF4 is well worth persevering with. 1955, that's nothing. I was at school in 1955! I joined the RAF at the end of 1955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Now that I have found my phone here is a picture. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Never fear, the fuselage will go together somehow even if you need to 'modify' the formers (even CNC cut ones) slightly. One thing I wouldn't be without is my SLEC fuselage jig which allows me to dry assemble and hold everything together without its falling apart as soon as you let go of it. I've built loads of fuselages with mine (and even a boat hull - my Thames sailing barge) and it's gettiing a bit tatty. I'm having similar problems with the CNC parts for my Peter Miller Li'l Cub (it's a strange shape too) as you can see here. It makes building a lot easier. It's all glued together here but I set it up dry and those lines help to get it straight. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 That is looking very good STeve. I ahev to say that as far as I can remember no one else complained about the fuselage Edited By Peter Miller on 14/10/2020 13:29:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 No complaints here either Peter just observations that demonstrate my ineptitude. If I had spotted that one of the triangular strips was tapered before I glued it in place then I would not have used it and there would have been no problem. A simple case of inexperience. No problem really and I have learned a lot, which is the main thing. I have four formers and the wing bolt plate fitted. That has taken me two days. It's a good job I am not on piece work and that I have plenty of free time. I won't be taking on any commissions any time soon at this rate. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Geoff Yes I have considered that jig but I don't know if I will be building anymore models. I thought that with the Ballerina and here I am building another one. I was warned that building is addictive, hmmm mixed tenses there. So what I am going to do is follow your suggestion and buy one for when I start The Ohmen. Hang on I must be addicted oh no I do not need any more, I do not need any more. Well one more will not do any harm will it. Ok I have convinced myself just one more maybe. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I suppose my problem is that I just throw the things together. and they fit by brute force and ignorance...or perhaps they don't DARE not to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Ah Peter you made me laugh yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 As you have cheered me up again here is a photo. They line up I think that's a good sign. The Engineer in me tells me that it is. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 There you are. Told you that it would work!!! Now you think you have problems. My current design will not fit on one side if a plan sheet but will not fill two sides. So is not going to be used. Not a problem in its self. Now I think I will scale it up a bit and that might be used or design two small models each to fit in a single side of a free plan sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Peter, you know that bigger is better😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Not in these days with the potential shortage of balsa or price increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Peter, what about a low wing fuselage to fill the empty part of the plan? Same wings and two alternative fuselages? But personally I prefer models in the 50 inch span range and thats the size of plan that would tempt me to buy RCME. Could be that size of the plane affects sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Hi KC At the moment I am looking at a version about 58" span or a fraction smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 It looks like I could be adding another one to the list. Peter if for some strange reason some one wished to have a say 62" span could they just add an extra bay to each wing? Obviously if that is no problem there must be some limit or we would have infinite span. Ok it's a daft thought. The sun was out this morning, no rain and a light breeze too nice to stay indoors so I went in the garden and planted garlic. Now that job is done I can refocus on this build. Looking at the weather forecast though I will be tempted to go flying tomorrow. I will make that decision tomorrow. I really ought to get a SLEC building board now that the build list is getting longer. Has anyone found a cure for this addiction? There again does anyone want a cure? Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I can show you what the model will look like as it is a sc ale up of this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Ah yes miss camomile I am speechless every time I look at her, so beautiful. Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 A 58 inch Miss Chamomile ( Miss Camellia ? ) seems a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Posted by kc on 15/10/2020 18:35:17: A 58 inch Miss Chamomile ( Miss Camellia ? ) seems a good idea! I think "Lady Camomile" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Lady Camomile seems appropriate for a bigger Miss Camomile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Steve, back in the days of ferrite ‘can’ motors and NiCd batteries, electric models (particularly conversions of i.c. designs) often turned out a bit heavy and underpowered. It was quite a common practice to add an extra bay onto each wing panel - I did it for my Limbo Dancer and Lazy Bee. Dick Edmunds’s Algebra range of gliders also came in quite a range of wingspans, all using the same fuselage. So yes, it is a reasonable thing to do, within limits of course! Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 In the case of the Lazy Bee it was an 'official' mod to add an extra wing bay to each side if the model was to be (Bee?) electrically powered. Mine originally had a belt drive 600 size brushed motor and a 7 cell NiCad and had the extra wing span. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Same here Geoff - I had the Olympus belt drive in mine too: **LINK** Sorry Steve for the nostalgic off-topic diversion! Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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