Piers Bowlan Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 22/02/2023 at 11:47, Mike T said: Sadly, none of Inwoods alu. cowls will suit a Hannibal. But DB does a 1/4 scaler which might suit: cowl Carbon copy do a 10in GRP Hannibal cowl for £28.99. Does it have to be aluminium? You could always spray it silver, unless it stopped you sleeping at night😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 25/02/2023 at 11:12, EarlyBird said: Yes please Bas. Post your progress with pictures and you will have my constant attention. Steve Steve, I am a little reluctant to post any pics as I am only novice at this. I take on things like this to stretch myself and learn about the various mechanical aspects of things. With this build I have already made some mistakes along the way.I am having to take steps to make sure the mistakes are still fit for purpose by making further additions, where deletion cannot easily be made.I will consider posting once its finished or close enough to. Managed to secure a set of old/new wheels(Thanks Tony). I have made an U/C but it looks a bit flimsy, will have to reconsider the wire size. Plan does not seem to indicate, or I have missed it. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Basil said: Steve, I am a little reluctant to post any pics as I am only novice at this. I take on things like this to stretch myself and learn about the various mechanical aspects of things. With this build I have already made some mistakes along the way.I am having to take steps to make sure the mistakes are still fit for purpose by making further additions, where deletion cannot easily be made.I will consider posting once its finished or close enough to. Managed to secure a set of old/new wheels(Thanks Tony). I have made an U/C but it looks a bit flimsy, will have to reconsider the wire size. Plan does not seem to indicate, or I have missed it. Bas I am also a novice which has made me give up posting any details as I don't wish to advertise my mistakes to the world, so I understand your reluctance. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I'm not a novice, but I do make mistakes and some bits I'll always struggle with, can't alter the edit time, but I can edit for you if requested as can any mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Don’t forget that we can learn from our mistakes! I, for one and despite many years of building, welcome constructive criticism but can understand a reluctance to post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I would encourage all the build logs - especially Basil & Earlybird who have raised interesting points in the past which makes the forum worthwhile. We all learn something. Basil - the normal size for piano wire u/c is 8 SWG (4mm )for medium to large models- anything thicker will be difficult to bend. Smaller models under 4 ft span might use 10 SWG (3.3mm ) but 8 might be better in many cases. Consider extra bracing rather than thicker wire if 8 SWG seems too frail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gates Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Basil, We all make mistakes in our builds even after many years of building. The answer is to learn so you don't make the same mistake twice. While I can imagine your reluctance to post the evidence - I think you will find the folks on this forum are unlikely to be nasty about any mistakes that have been made and may be able to guide you and support you along the way. I have been building for over 30 years and even in my current build I have made a mistake or two which I have to amend or work around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 My latest build Hound Dog. Next will be Peggy Sue 2. Anyone else building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 13 hours ago, kc said: I would encourage all the build logs - especially Basil & Earlybird who have raised interesting points in the past which makes the forum worthwhile. We all learn something. Basil - the normal size for piano wire u/c is 8 SWG (4mm )for medium to large models- anything thicker will be difficult to bend. Smaller models under 4 ft span might use 10 SWG (3.3mm ) but 8 might be better in many cases. Consider extra bracing rather than thicker wire if 8 SWG seems too frail. Have not got my gauge to hand but its 2.7mm approx. Very springy. Have to go out now, will refer to the drawing when I get back. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Hi Bas. I think you will find that the undercarriage is made from 5mm piano wire. That is the size on the plan and probably the diameter of the hole in your wheels. Without a proper bending tool it is very difficult to form and would need either brazing, or welding to construct. Ordinary solder will not be up to the task. I think you need a local small engineering workshop (or large scale modeller) to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Basil said: Have not got my gauge to hand but its 2.7mm approx. Very springy. Have to go out now, will refer to the drawing when I get back. Bas Just found my wire gauge, it's 12swg. Very springy!!!!! Kevin, I cant find any reference to the wire gauge on my plan, where should I look, the fuse plan has some details mainly side on and the 'Axle join' the rest I had to simulate. I will have to look at my wire stocks!!!! The flair wheels do not have a hole for the axle. Just referenced a model of similar span that I have been playing with for some time, mainly applying various techniques in order to learn about them. That uses 7/8 swg , I bent that with my heavy duty bender, but not so complicated , therefore easier to make accurately. Well here goes, nothing ventured!!!! Bas Edited February 28, 2023 by Basil additions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Well, I bent some 8swg to the shapes that I drew up for the earlier springy U/C.Went well, surprisingly well indeed. In the past the 'Axle' parts of the wire frame don't always run true to the ground level aimed at and require a great deal of tweaking. Needed a bit of a tweak but came true quickly. Never done silver soldering before , bought the materials some while ago, that to went reasonably well. Used the fuse as a jig . I will have to let it cool down before a closer inspection. To cold in the outside workshop so packed up for now. I will see in the morning!!!!!. Will take some pics but still not sure about a public show. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 This mornings inspection reveals what looks solid if perhaps a little untidy. Never done silver soldering before, put some solder on whist it was cooling down. I would consider putting a piccy on but not to clear as how to achieve it. Now using a new/recon PC so no idea. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Basil Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 I have been lucky enough to get hold of an unused pair of Flair wheels for the Hannibal, thanks Tony.Does anybody have/know the instructions for assembly.Only get one chance at it if I glue without making inquiries at the beginning.Plan to bush with a brass tube . My main problem with photos is loading the computer with them first!!!. That's before I get to loading them to the Forum. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Brass sleeved and epoxied in place turned down a bit of a old brass lorry tyre extension valve to make it look nice 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 From memory the wheels do need a bit of care and practice without the tyre on to get the hubs to align properly any loose flashing from the tyre when moulded needs to be removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Might be worth soldering a washer at the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hi Bert, the sides of the wheel come together easily without the tyres on. Only when assembling with the tyre does it get awkward as the inner surface(Radius, of the tyre) tends to fill the gap in the reccess of the plastic hub. When applying adhesive it looks like the rubber will interfere with the fit. Thanks for the hub tip, but dont possess a lathe, looks really good. bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, bert baker said: Might be worth soldering a washer at the rear I try and do this every time.Seems like you have assembled Hannibal? BAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 It looks like the tyre must go on first. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bert baker Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Yes tyres need to be fitted first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Hi Bert, I love the yellow colour, do you know the shade/colour of paint/covering? Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert baker Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 09:38, Basil said: Hi Bert, I love the yellow colour, do you know the shade/colour of paint/covering? Bas Satin Solartex Linen not cleaned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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