Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cuban8 said: When I tried kitchen cling film because I couldn't find anything else, I found that Cyano melted and stuck to it and caused all sorts of trouble when removing the workpiece from it. PVA is no problem of course. Should have made that clear. Not found much problem with cyano when I’ve used it. Occasional rip when removing but easily pulled remnants off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: Not found much problem with cyano when I’ve used it. Occasional rip when removing but easily pulled remnants off. Must be different types of material used between brands. I know that the built up wing that I assembled with cyano on the cling film raided from the kitchen welded itself to the rib and spar juctions where the cyano had wicked into it underneath. Same thing with the bottom spars where I'd been a bit over generous with the Cyano and it had wicked along underneath the spar. Terrible job making it good, as the cling film that I used tore away and left what remained securely welded to the part. A lot of fiddling and careful sanding to remove most of it. Maybe some Cyanos react differently as well? Edited October 3, 2023 by Cuban8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 I have options ..... Either wax paper / baking paper ..... or a sheet of polythene that has come with the Tony Nijhuis Sky 40. I am presuming they haven't included sheeting that will stick to CA of course. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Not necessarily. They may not expect you to use CA. I don't use it very much for initial builds - I prefer aliphatic, or Gorilla wood glue, or even plain old pva.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 I can always cut off a scrap and try sticking a bit of balsa on it. That should clear the way before I find out the hard way. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Sounds like a plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 As suggested a few posts ago ..... I decided to stiffen up the building board by adding a couple of bits of cross bracing ...... using some 12mm ply .... on goes the first ...... and then the second .... two should be ample. thats that for now until my Sundeala arrives .... hopefully tomorrow. cheers toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stainforth Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Personally, I would put another crossbeam across middle for extra resistance to curvature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 I was wondering when that was going to be suggested .... 😄 .... I probably should have just done that whilst I was at it but two of the pieces fell rather nicely into the measurement of the piece that I cut ..... 😄 I'll get around to a third piece when I next get the jigsaw out again. toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 The things I do ....... and .... and finally ....... that's yer lot. toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Nah! It needs some diagonal cross braces😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 and the second word is off. 😄 I was thinking mortice joints or something ....... Ohhhhh my ead. toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 and some nice mouldings around the edge. What colour are you going to paint it🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Paint ..... paint ...... how very dare you....... I was thinking .... Fablon Sir. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) Put some legs on in it youve got a nice table to put a building board on! Edited October 4, 2023 by Learner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 My sundeala board has landed this morning. I have contact adhesive but probably not enough so I'm off to B and Q Back to the shed later. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 I think you might build a model railway layout on it in view of your former interests 🙂 N gauge perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 He's N Gauged on a large scale project, building and learning to fly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Hi Geoff Started out in OO scale but now working in O Gauge. Much easier on the eyes. I am exhibiting with my buddy next weekend in Dundee Model Railway Exhibition with my mates layout. The first I've done in ages. My eyes would not stand up to N Gauge. Cheers Toto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Very quick visit to B and Q ........ in and out. No hanging about. A couple of small tins of contact adhesive now ready for the fixing of the Sundeala surface onto the MDF. I'll have to read the tin for drying times but I'd be guessing at a couple of hours at least. More on that when I hit the shed later. Cheers Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Well ..... So much for modularisation with building products.. I nipped out to the shed with my Sundeala board and played it out on top of the MDF base board. The MDF baseboard is standard width of 1220mm as all board products come in. The Sundeala board is about an inch short. There is a bit scrap left over which I can patch a bit in but it's not ideal. I was always under the impression that Sundeala would have came from the usual overall dimensions of 2440 x 1220 as the other board products do. Obviously not so. Not a big deal but would have been a bit neater. Whinge over ..... move on. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Back in the shed and horsing on with the building board. The Sundeala .... about an inch short ..... Booooooo cut the extra length of the board to give me some spare .... Huzzarrrrrrr .... gap filled ..... but not really the desired finish. ... never mind. The weapon of choice ..... Evo Stick impact adhesive ..... spread all over the MDF surface but no photo's as my hands got covered in the stuff and it was very quickly starting to dry out / become tacky so just kept going. You don't get a second chance with this stuff. Started to clamp the finish down once I had squared it up. Again .... be prepared for this prior to letting the two surfaces touch as ..... just as it says on the tin ..... the first touch grabs like a child in a sweet shop. and weighed down the middle as well. Unfortunately, this takes up to 24 hours to fully set so there will not be much more going on with this for the time being ..... but ...... I have a cunning plan .... I am a little bit concerned about the edges taking a bit of a hit during storage ..... I have an idea so watch the space. toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, toto said: Well ..... So much for modularisation with building products.. I nipped out to the shed with my Sundeala board and played it out on top of the MDF base board. The MDF baseboard is standard width of 1220mm as all board products come in. The Sundeala board is about an inch short. There is a bit scrap left over which I can patch a bit in but it's not ideal. I was always under the impression that Sundeala would have came from the usual overall dimensions of 2440 x 1220 as the other board products do. Obviously not so. Not a big deal but would have been a bit neater. Whinge over ..... move on. Toto What size of Sundeala did you order? Did you receive exactly what you had ordered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Hi Leccy, I'll need to check. To be honest ..... if my memory serves me right .... the description did say 1200 x 600mm which would be correct .... ie .... what I got. I thought this might just have been a typo error and the 1200 mm .... should have read 1220 mm. Obviously not. You just think ..... Nah .... thats an error it will come the standard size 1220mm wide. no big deal. Following on from the above ...... I used some scrap timber to do the following protective edge ....... As said ..... it was scrap that really I wanted rid of. I had it lying in a pile on the shed floor getting in the way ...... so ..... why not use it. The other side .... an end going on ...... not the prettiest ... but serves a purpose. and the other end ........ Now ..... all I need is crane hire. cheers for now toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 In order to mark the completion of my builders board build .... I thought it only fit and proper to christen it.... So ..... I give you " Bob " the building board. I did put out invites for the occasion ...... but nobody turned up ....... can't understand why. toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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