ken anderson. Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 the latest mag has a free plan in for a Canard...i'm quite taken by it...anyone else? ken anderson...ne...1..Canard dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Interesting model but I get disorientated just looking at the pictures of it 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Looks a bit like a Can Doo to me. Hard to see...not really apart most people think its flying backwards! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John T Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I'd go for it Ken, I think you will enjoy flying it. A few years ago I designed a canard along similar lines with a flat plate all sheet wing, although slightly larger with a 34" span. Like the designer of this months free plan I also used an online C off G calculator, and it was more by luck than judgement that I got it down in one piece. Now I've got the C of G sorted out it's become one of my favourite models, fast and aerobatic yet easy to fly. It does look different in the air but I don't find orientation a problem, it's certainly easier than a flying wing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Hi John, When I researched the Can Doo there were a couple of reports that it became hard to handle at higher speeds (one of the reasons for making mine) so I have just enjoyed it for what it is rather than explore the upper limit with a tent peg out come! What do you think makes yours more stable at high speed compared with say the Can Doo or other canard types like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John T Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Not sure Chris, but it may be something to do with the fins on the end of the swept back wing being slightly further behind the centre of pressure. A sharp turn at the end of a high speed pass can produce a slight tail wag but this is damped out almost instantly. Edited November 17, 2023 by John T Corrected grammer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry A Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hi chaps, its Terry the designer of said model here, I have no problems with orientation at all ( unlike my autogyro which disorientates me every single flight) anyhow it's just as well as I have souped it up as we used to say and had 155mph out of it last week with a slight tailwind. That was with 4 cells a 2200kv motor on a 7x4 pusher with another prop still to try, Terry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) On 17/11/2023 at 16:52, John T said: A few years ago I designed a canard along similar lines with a flat plate all sheet wing That looks really nice John, much purdier than a Can Doo! 🙂 Does it have a reasonable glide? thinking slope... Edited November 19, 2023 by Phil Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Terry A said: Hi chaps, its Terry the designer of said model here, I have no problems with orientation at all ( unlike my autogyro which disorientates me every single flight) anyhow it's just as well as I have souped it up as we used to say and had 155mph out of it last week with a slight tailwind. That was with 4 cells a 2200kv motor on a 7x4 pusher with another prop still to try, Terry Another great design Terry which, when my mate lets me have the plan, I will be 'converting' to Depron as per the Hanky Planky! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John T Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 22 hours ago, Phil Green said: Does it have a reasonable glide? thinking slope... Thanks for the comment Phil. For a relatively small all sheet model it's got a surprisingly floaty glide and would probably be ok on a decent slope. It's no Monterey though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 wood ordered from Slec today...watch this space. ken anderson...ne....1..space watching dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Bastow Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I am quite tempted I must admit. I have had two canards in the past, a Candoo and a Canardex and both were good fliers. They did not stall and the Candoo in particular was a great yank and bank machine and could really be reefed around turns. I had no issues with either at high speed or orientation problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 20/11/2023 at 09:39, John T said: Thanks for the comment Phil. For a relatively small all sheet model it's got a surprisingly floaty glide and would probably be ok on a decent slope. It's no Monterey though... This would make a great RCM&E plan John! Kevin? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) That's what the Dracan is.....a free plan Phil Ken Anderson...ne...1 free plan dept. Edited November 26, 2023 by ken anderson. Crepe spellin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 hours ago, ken anderson. said: That's what the Dracan is.....a free plan Phil Ken Anderson...ne...1 free plan dept. Yes but there’s always room for one more... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh McCaber Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 No online bickering now lads- they're both nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 Tosh,your right, beauty is in the eye of the beholder..... where's me glasses..🙂 Ken Anderson...ne...1..Glasses dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 here's a couple of photos from ne...1...Dracan construction dept....utilising Mrs A's pegs. Pretty much the same as the plan and mag...with the exception of the wing mounting, I'm changing it to one captive nut and bolt and a peg/locator at the back....and its one piece instead of a centre joint. ken anderson....ne..1..Dracan dept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 This is a canard that i built many years ago, occasionally still fly. In reality it was a result of failure, originally it was a 100" glider built for the BARCS League. In that form it would not tow, never mind reach a height that was competitive on leaving the line. Years later when Inrunners were few and far between, I decided to cut the model down, to suit a pretty low powered motor that I had purchased (at some expense). It became a Bitza, a reduced length body, a cut down Sagitta tailplane for the foreplane and a new Depron thin main plain (probably 6%). It initially took some development. I became aware that I believe Richard Harris also designed and built a nicer looking model than my own. Probably more scientifically designed. I understand that it was turned down by RCM&E because they had a similar model? All I can really say is that my model, does not stall in a conventual manner. Also as it comes near to what passes for a stall, it wing rocks. My model needed big winglets, to get it to turn reliably using aileron. Now it is fine. There was a time when it Dutch rolled in a turn (a minor amount), again it is now fine. I hope the last paragraph helps when you all come to fly. I am interested as to others experiences 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 the Dracan marches on...a couple of more pictures from the build...hope you like.. ken anderson...ne,,1,,,Dracan dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 started to apply some Tissue.....the Dracans clothes... ken anderson...ne...1....clothing dept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 the Fuz has its basic tissue done,wings next. ken anderson..ne..1...Dracan dept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) Dracan update.....fitted the servo's for the aileron's in the fuz,bit easier than wing fitting.put some more tissue covering on...i made the wing from one piece of balsa as well,no joint in the middle.......the balsa is starting to look like a Dracan.... ken anderson...ne...1...Dracan dept. Edited December 13, 2023 by ken anderson. added some more words of wisdom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 All the building done, ailerons to fit.. ....now busy fitting out with the motor/radio gear...and then we will attempt to defy gravity... ken anderson...ne....1...Gravity dept. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypeesh Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Hi Ken, what did you apply the tissue with, looks really good. Sort of skimmed past this plan, but sorting out old mags yesterday I gave it a second look and am quite taken with it. 🙂 Have a good Christmas, cheers, Simon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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