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No, Area51, it was released on the news just now from the French authorities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32063587

"We hear the pilot ask the co-pilot to take control of the plane and we hear at the same time the sound of a seat moving backwards and the sound of a door closing," Mr Robin told reporters.

"At that moment, the co-pilot is controlling the plane by himself. While he is alone, the co-pilot presses the buttons of the flight monitoring system to put into action the descent of the aeroplane.

"This action on the altitude controls can only be deliberate."

Edited By John F on 26/03/2015 12:14:54

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Posted by Area 51 on 26/03/2015 12:11:03:
Posted by John F on 26/03/2015 12:05:41:

It isn't just the media, John, many folk on here have also speculated quite a lot.

Now that it was confirmed that the co-pilot locked the door and started an eight minute descent intentionally there will be a very different angle to the media and forums.

WOW!

Was it the co-pilot?

I have not read if it was the Captain or 1st officer who was locked in or out! Surely this is further speculation unless it is factual and known as such.

To say it was the co-pilot points a finger directly at one individual and allows the media to speculate accordingley and this will involve the co-pilots family!

The FDR needs to be recovered and this will clear indicate who and how a descent into terrain was initiated....

They have already recovered one FDR and started extract files from it - I assume this information about the locked door was leaked from that extract

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They have already recovered one FDR and started extract files from it - I assume this information about the locked door was leaked from that extract

I think what they current have in the CVR (Cockpit voice recorder) the FDR is the Flight Data Recorder.. this, when played back with the CVR will present a clearer representation of what took place. Right now it seems the two recorders have become seperated as they are located in close proximity to one another in the tail of the a/c.

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In order to come to that conclusion they would have had an enormous amount of sound specialist forensics attacking the sound files to determine the occurences.

The aviation authorities are amazing in their abilities and working where I work I appreciate the expertise that these types of people bring to the job.

This would not have been released; implicating someone directly, unless they were absolutely sure.

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If the the pilot was of unsound mind at the time of the incident it'll be an unbearable situation for his friends and family to comprehend and live with, but what if, and it's a big if, it turns out that faith and race have played a part in this tragedy.

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Is it just me or is the presentation delivery by Sky's Dermott Murnaghan grating on everyones nerves ?

" The aircraft SLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMEDDDDDDDDDD into the mountain " Still I suppose after 20 years on Sky news he will never change. This subject matter is bad enough and doesn't warrant his style of reading a bulletin.

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It does appear that that the co-pilot did lock out the Pilot and also initiated the descent.

I can only imagine (thankfully) the total devastation of those who have lost some one in the crash. I am sure that the majority will not be able to comprehend why some one would want to take others lives and futures, due to their thinking that the value of their own live was of little value.

All aspects of what has occurred is a tragedy..

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Problem is the lockable door - stops or slows down an attempted take over of the cockpit, but doesn't work the other way round. Thing is the flight crew are the cream of the crop - highly trained and to commit suicide is so remote, But now, I reckon, there should always be two crew in the cockpit at any time, even if there is a need to only a co-pilot and pilot, a third member should be available when either member needs to leave to go to the toilet or get a snack, etc.

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Reading now, airline companies are implementing a two person policy at all times starts tonight. Although not a requirement by the authorities, this seems to be a weak link in the chain.

Over the years, air crashes have made flying safer by learning from mistakes which had been made, but suicide never was taken seriously - it hardly happened, and one of these is still discounted - the Egypt Air crash where the pilot locked the FO out and put the a/c in a vertical dive - after removing the power to the FDR and CVR - hence the reason why is was never officially announced, although the police did so - as that pilot had accumilated debts and a demotion to Captain from Instructor after some questionable flight manaouvers he did in the past.

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I cannot understand what would cause any one to to not only kill themselves, and also over a hundred more. I expect most of the population are in a similar position.

Yet people do take their own lives, perhaps not world head line grabbing, nor involving so many others, in essence not as unusual as I initially think.

It does seem, from this distance, that the co-pilot had a great job, doing what he enjoyed, paid well compared to the majority, apparently a live style that most would aspire to.

Which does beg the question, why?

Did he really lack the imagination or the empathy to imagine the impact of such an act would have on so many lives directly and many more consequentially. If he did, was he really that callous? Although I have forgotten the co-pilots parents, I can imagine they are not only devastated, but will suffer from vitriol from others. It is rather disturbing that a guy who was probably more mentally stable than many of us, could change, perhaps suddenly?

I keep thinking why?

I am assuming that the picture presented by the spokesman is quite as straight forward as at present is being presented. As it does not seem to make sense.

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