john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 An itch I've long wanted to scratch, would prefer the Dora version, 70 inch would be perfect but if it's out there I can't find it. Nearest I've found is Dave Platt FW 190D 64 inch, bit bigger would be perfect. https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=97936 Any suggestions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Hi John, If you really want to scratch that itch, what about printing the Dave Platt plan at 110%... ??? ... I guess that should be close enough... Cheers Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Nothing the exact size. There is Dave Platt's 80 inch FW190 A8 80inch plan on Outerzone and Tony Nijhous 60 inch 190A a free plan in RCME Special Autumn 2011. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 No plans as such - veneered foam wing, built up balsa and ply fuselage with ABS mouldings for the cowl, but Mick Reeves sports scale FW190 D is the right sort of size for what you are after. They aren't available from Mick Reeves anymore, but do crop up on ebay from time to time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I think the lads are right John , The Topflite one was also 10cc size at around63" . It would be easy to scale one up as they are pretty straight forward . Dont have many lumps and bumps either so not too many snags . However , spinner will be a problem unless you stay at the 63" size and you will have to make your own cowl and canopy . Cowl , easy . Canopy , not so easy ,especially if you want the blown one which I think suits the beast . You could get somebody to 3D design and print the canopy , then get a vac form of it . Oleos will be long too at 70". Although its easy to modify retracts to reduce them form 90 to 85 degrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Smith 1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Hope you find what you are after, John. I am interested to see what you finally decide on. No good at suggestions I am afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 I built Brian Taylors at 60 inch n a bit, but gave it away, around 70 inch ticks all my boxes, have the plan for the bigger D.P one but beyond my budget I would need to buy the engine as well. Hadn't occured to me to get a plan blown up, what do I need to provide to a printer ? Cowl and canopy I reckon I could deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Richard. Have you tried; Derek Scott (If you struggle to get hold of him I have his number) RC Scale builder RC Groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: Hadn't occured to me to get a plan blown up, what do I need to provide to a printer ? Hi John, Just download the Dave Platt plan (64") at Aerofred. Contact a (good) printing office, mail them the .pdf file and ask them to print a (or multiple) paper copy(ies) at 110% (or 109% if you want to have a precise 70" result). Jobs a good un... Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I have an new ESM/YT fw190a that i am looking to sell. Been meaning to list it for a while, just not got around to it. Its 72 inch but as both an A version and an ARTF i dont know if its of any interest but if it is let me know. Fokkerc do a 190d but its bigger at 84 inch https://www.fokkerc.com/product/fockewulf-190-d9-15-scale-model-wooden-kit/. Lovely kit though and i would be quite a beast when done. I suspect blowing up a Platt plan will be your best option if a 70 inch d9 is your preference though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 I want a D9 Jon, plan built I can spread the cost as well. Thanks for the offer though, someone would not doubt buy it sharpish. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Yea no bother John. The D9 is easier for c/g as well due to the longer nose so it works out well as a model. If you go for the bigger FRC version that would be a great model, and if you arent too far away i have the right size Spitfire to chase it 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Bradly Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I acknowledge you'd pdefer the Dora, but as an option Tony Nijhuis will scale his plans to any size. I have his 60" FW190A plan printed at 82.5". Pretty easy build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 What's not to love. 😍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 ... indeed a lovely craft, John... 😃 ... but what about stopping drooling... and get that DP plan printed at 110%... !!! ... 🙄 Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Am a bit busy at present Chris and I want to look into a set of retracts for it before I decide what size. I know nothing about buying them nor where from so need to tick that box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I think 190's need 74 degrees for scale, but electron (a good place to look for retracts) only do 85's so you might have to look at the wing and its mounts or live with a slightly no scale stance on the ground. Sierra offer this set http://www.sierragiant.com/prod45.html for the ESM/YT 190 and they are going to suit any 70 inch 190 pretty well. They aint cheap though, and i have no clue how to get them in UK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 I can live with non scale on ground tbh, nice when no legs show in flight. Thanks Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 yea if you are just looking for a flyer then i am sure 85 or 80 degrees will be fine. You can probably tinker with the mounts too. As you say, you cant see them when they are up! If you spot a crashed ESM/YT 190 and/or a set of retracts from one on ebay then i would snap them up. Maybe do a wanted on BMFA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Found these https://www.jphobby.eu/en/retracts/2468-jp-hobby-electric-retract-er-005-5mm-70-6kghighinside.html 85 degree also available. I think you need one of their controllers, about another £25. Never used these retracts so no idea how good they are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Long 1 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 When I tried the link you posted Jon, Norton blocked it with the following message. This is a known dangerous webpage. It is highly recommended that you do NOT visit this page. When I looked further it seems Norton had detected malware on the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 That's odd, none of the machines here give a monkeys and one of them has norton on it. Google chrome normally yells at me if something is wrong and jphobby arent exactly unknowns. I think your norton has got its knickers in a twist over nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Microsoft has no issue with the link. Thanks Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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