Piers Bowlan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) On 19/02/2021 at 14:41, Rich Griff said: Somewhere in the he loft I should have templates and probably a miniskyman plan. Been up in the loft quite recently looking for other stuff, but will look again as I want to make an other miniskyman again, 049 Cox or maybe 06 enya. An 09 will be too powerfully/fast, been there done that, 09 Cox TD vertical climb was only limited by fuel. When it find templates/plane will get back to this spatman thread. Alan Gorham on p.3 of this thread mentioned that he too was looking to build a Mini Skyman if only he could get hold of a plan. So if your plan does turn up Rich I think there could be several requests for copies, including me! You could always email a pdf copy to Outerzone. I emailed Derek Scott of modelplans.co.uk for a copy but sadly his pdf copy has been lost from his hard drive (not backed up ?). Edited February 20, 2021 by Piers Bowlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, Piers Bowlan said: Alan Gorham on p.3 of this thread mentioned that he too was looking to build a Mini Skyman if only he could get hold of a plan. So if your plan does turn up Rich I think there could be several requests for copies, including me! You could always email a pdf copy to Outerzone. I emailed Derek Scott of modelplans.co.uk for a copy but sadly his pdf copy has been lost from his hard drive (not backed up ?). Piers, I also email Derek yesterday same topic, same answer.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Outerzone ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rich Griff said: Outerzone ?? Outerzone is a plans Archive Rich, like Aerofred. Edited February 20, 2021 by Piers Bowlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I hope now your flying sites have reopened and the weather is good? you're all getting the opportunity to enjoy some flying again. Reminder; I’m putting together an article about the Spatman within the context of our forum, plan sharing & the model building community for the RCM&E, I would very much like to include pictures of as many of the finished models as possible to illustrate it. If you would like to be involved & would like to see your Spatman in the Magazine, please message me from the forum & attach a copy of them there. The pictures will need to be a nice shot of the model, well focussed and at least 1MB in size to use in print. Please include a few details about yours model, like what make it unique, motor used, you name etc.. Enjoy the good weather, stay safe & don’t forget to take a camera! ??️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lane 2 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I'm chuffed to report that another renovated Spatman took to the air today, after a retirement of around 20 years or so - I'd nearly chucked it out and am so glad that I didn't. Although I thought that I was prepared for the amazing manoeuvrability, it still took me by surprise. Possibly a little tail heavy, as I'd swapped the original bunch of AA NiCD batteies for some AAA NiMh , and a blustery wind with turbulence from nearby trees didn't help - but after a short flight I got it down in one piece and will be looking forward to the next time out, having tweaked it a bit. Roy, I will get a better photo to you asap, cheers... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Look's sweet in the sunlight David, Them's some big rocks in your pit's, I can see why you band your gear on!, hope the rest of your strip is a bit more forgiving. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lane 2 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Ah, yes, it was brilliant sunshine - but with a freezing cold and blustery wind. Yes, we do have a few rocks around, but as the old saying goes, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer - so we usually set up amongst the worse of them and get quite good at landing amongst them - short video shows the huge expanse of moorland that is 'our' patch... Short flight of ancient single channel radio gear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Some excellent flights today with my Spatman, despite the windy conditions. I installed a gyro to help with take offs (to prevent ground loops) but switched it off s soon as it was in the air. Loops, rolls (axial and barrel) were performed with ease and the OS15, once tuned, was a dream. I had my helmet cam switched on but when I got home I found that I hadn't got the SD card in the camera, so no vids - what a numpty! will take it out again next week and get some vids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Good to hear the gyro did the trick for the ROG, would like to give it ago but I can only hand launch due to deep moss, small wheels and big spats! It’s surprising how well they handle windy conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Despite windy (15 - 18mph) conditions some nice flights with Spatty and this time I remembered the SD card! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Yikes, it gets small very quickly but then I guess it is not very big to start with! Well flown Ron in that wind (respect!) and thanks for sharing. I have just painted my Spatman so picture to follow shortly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Looking forward to seeing it Piers. A real hoot to fly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 One problem I’ve come across is that it runs out of fuel with half a tank remaining! I’ve checked the plumbing of the SLEC tank and it’s OK. The tank sits as high as it can, restricted by the sloping ‘screen’, but the OS15 LA doesn’t seem to like it when the fuel level goes below the spray bar. Tank is pressurised from exhaust. Any suggestions guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ron Gray said: One problem I’ve come across is that it runs out of fuel with half a tank remaining! I’ve checked the plumbing of the SLEC tank and it’s OK. The tank sits as high as it can, restricted by the sloping ‘screen’, but the OS15 LA doesn’t seem to like it when the fuel level goes below the spray bar. Tank is pressurised from exhaust. Any suggestions guys? The feed pipe got a hole in it, inside the tank ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Checked that John and it’s OK (I removed it then blocked and blew through it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Clunk too long so it's getting wedged up out of the fuel ?? D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Looking at the pictures, I'm going with the rear needle set up Ron, it's a sharp incline for it to suck up n feed. Why only when it's half full, I've no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Dwain Dibley. said: Clunk too long so it's getting wedged up out of the fuel ?? D.D. Checked that DD and it’s fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 8 hours ago, john stones 1 Moderator said: Looking at the pictures, I'm going with the rear needle set up Ron, it's a sharp incline for it to suck up n feed. Why only when it's half full, I've no idea. Good point John, but as you say, why when the tank is half empty? But that’s a fixed position for the feed nipple on the rear needle so, unless all tanks were above the engine, wouldn’t all LA motors have this problem? As that rear needle mount is plastic I’m just wondering if there is a crack in it letting in air so there isn’t enough ‘suck’ so that when the engine isn’t being helped by the head of fuel in the tank (when the fuel level is above the spray bar) it just can’t get the fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hi Ron, have you tried piece of fuel tubing over the threads of the needle, I find it helps stopping air being drawn in along the threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Well picked up Eric, I was wondering when one of you would have noticed! Seriously, a good tip and one I will look into although, in the meantime I have ordered a new rear plate and needle assembly from Just Engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Finally managed to get up the field just before sun set with my youngest & a camera, unfortunately it was very blustery like your flight Ron, but we managed to get a few shots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Very nice Roy. I took mine out again yesterday evening, nowhere near as windy as the previous day and glorious blue sky. Same problem though with running out of fuel when tank gets to half full, but something else that may point to the cause of the problem, when the engine starts to falter I throttle back and it picks up again, throttle up and fuel starvation. This only happens after 4 minutes of flying (half tank). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: Very nice Roy. I took mine out again yesterday evening, nowhere near as windy as the previous day and glorious blue sky. Same problem though with running out of fuel when tank gets to half full, but something else that may point to the cause of the problem, when the engine starts to falter I throttle back and it picks up again, throttle up and fuel starvation. This only happens after 4 minutes of flying (half tank). Ron, is the tank 'soft mounted' on foam? Vibration can cause the fuel to 'foam' which usually gets worse when there's less in the tank. I'm sure you've checked but it's just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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