Andy Meade Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sense? Spoken about magazine content? Surely not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ken anderson. Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 following on from young BEB'S post about the mag content--i still say for the price its good value ...what can you buy for the same dosh...very little... ken anderson...ne...1....long live the mag dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I do not think ant one can argue with the comment of BEB, that the range of RC modelling is vast. The Autumn Special caters for that one outstanding model that every modeller has or aspires to own. It is a niche. I can understand, what is for me a over dedicated column inches to Quads. They represent a new type of device, that loosely can be considered RC. The capability as commercial devices appears to be vast, if not in the UK, certainly in other areas of the world. Many hobbyists are intrigued and interested in what they are. I can see that there will be a dedicated magazine for them, be it for the hobbyist and the commercial user. Yet in trying to address the breadth of RC modelling, I feel that sometimes us middle of the road, pretty ordinary modellers are not considered as much as many hope for. The big question, does the RCM&E represent the best content that is currently available. It probably does for most modellers. More specialised magazines either have folded or struggle to stay in print, such as Scale, silent /quiet flight. RCM&E has adapted the most successfully to a changing world, having all but dropped the Electronic aspect. Yet this is not necessarily enough, if modellers decide to not purchase any mags, for what ever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Ryan Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hmmm not happy I tell you. It's now November and still no sign of my Special Edition here in Australia. Is anyone else having this problem down here. Is there someone I can speak to about the whereabouts of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Ashby Moderator Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hi Glenn, I'm sorry to hear that you haven't received your issue yet, I've contacted the subscriptions department to see if there is a general delay but if you wanted to send me your subscription number and postal address, I can see if they can track yours down specifically. [email protected] Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorone Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Another unhappy subscriber from done under, still waiting for my Special Edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Ryan Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Thanks heaps Beth. I have emailed you all of my details. Thanks heaps again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Fledermaus Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I said in another thread, that of late I have been disappointed with the content of RCM&E and that I was considering cancelling my subscription. As others have said the editorial team have a difficult job keeping everyone, or at least the majority of us happy, but I'm finding, on the whole, less and less in it's pages to interest me. I often pick up a copy ( almost every month it seems ) of RC Model World, and I find that publication more on my particular wavelength. A better balance of old and new, not too much about quads, with a good sprinkling of Peter Miller plans. Suits me Sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Just seen 'in another place' that Q&EFI International magazine has just ceased publication. The reason given is that electric flight is no longer the niche, specialist activity of a few years back and can therefore be covered in sufficient detail in Q&EFI's publisher's main title. Personally, I doubt that very many that regularly took Q&EFI will be willing to wade through pages of what is to them totally irrelevant and will just get by without it. Not being a magazine buyer myself, the change doesn't affect me at all but I think we'll be seeing further changes to the magazine landscape as modelling and modellers tastes alter. Purely as a business, I'm surprised that modelling mags (and other titles) have hung on as they have, but I suppose that with the best will in the world and a shrinking readership a tipping point will be reached. Judging by the content of the two main UK titles (flicked through in WHS - sorry!) If you're not a beginner or a drone/quad aficionado then one's outlay of almost a fiver doesn't get you much to get your teeth into I'm afraid. OK, it's easy enough to be critical so what would convince me to buy a mag? Firstly, I only really want to read about what interests me..........impossible with a hard copy magazine but maybe something could be done along the lines of a pick & mix on line version? Edited By Cuban8 on 03/11/2015 12:19:11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Sad news. As a a one time Q&EFI reader I have seen the magazine change over the years from a time, when Steve Mettam was the editor to more recent times. The emphasis and content changed dramatically over that period, from a time when modellers read about aerofoils, which I think were written by Simon Cocker and other technical aspects. When there was a serious body of glider and electric pilots at all levels, to now, when it became a pale shadow of its once relevant self. All the more to be saddened by Davids decision to plough a new furrow. RCM&E has managed to stay relevant and serve a wide interest reader base. It is possibly now that the challenge has become greater. I am not sure that the increasing Quad content, nor the increasing emphasis on big, lavish type models, is the way to go. Then what do I know, as far as the general readership is concerned a clearer picture will emerge via the sales figures. Like Cuban8, I am not sure that diminishing sales in total across the hobby are not inevitable. That is within the UK, other markets could be a different story. One aspect that has puzzled me for some time, is that women orientated magazines, generally have much lower cover prices, are glossier, and are much thicker, with greater content. Is it all just down to there being more advertisers, who can afford to spend, because women purchase more, in most areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Q&EFI gone?! Noooooooo..... That's a real blow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Posted by Erfolg on 03/11/2015 13:35:34: One aspect that has puzzled me for some time, is that women orientated magazines, generally have much lower cover prices, are glossier, and are much thicker, with greater content. Is it all just down to there being more advertisers, who can afford to spend, because women purchase more, in most areas? They most certainly do not have greater content! The crud about x celeb daring to eat lunch or y celeb walking down a beach is not what I would call content. I can't say for the paper quality, there is nothing wrong with the quality of the paper used in our mag but the womens mags are almost entirely funded by advertisers anyway with some mags taking up 78% of pages with adverts! (Vogue) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Any hobby specific mag is in a damned if they do damned if they don't situation, and there is NO way out as the subject is a technology driven one, so moving on all the time, unlike a lot of the people! Be VERY interested to see how the FPV series pans out, as I have just climbed that cliff, and it was ruddy steep, and littered with dangerous paths to fall off. Which "bit"? 250 Race Quads in my case. I have been pictured in the Mag twice, last year with a foam indoor own design, and 1977/8, while racing 1/8th Stock Cars at Sandown, now not covered. At that rate I'm not likely to appear again as I'll have timed out...................but will the Mag still be there? Not if it does not adapt constantly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 216 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Traplet still show the November issue of Q&EFI on their web-site, although I could not find it in WHS this morning. One of the reasons I stopped buying it on a regular basis was the fact the it was much thinner than RCME, or Model World and contained almost the same reviews and images. An example being the Dynam Me110 review in all three publications said as you would expect the same things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 a small gripe i have about the mag is when they do a review of the top end ARTF models the very large and expensive models powered and gliders..........not so long ago there was mention of a glider £5-6K.......i wonder which part of the mag readership the article's are aimed at....... i would love to know how many kits are sold? .. or how many are interested......... its similar to the car programs with the very expensive unobtainable(for mere mortal's) models on them... ken anderson...ne....1...... pauper's dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Posted by John F on 03/11/2015 14:15:53: Posted by Erfolg on 03/11/2015 13:35:34: One aspect that has puzzled me for some time, is that women orientated magazines, generally have much lower cover prices, are glossier, and are much thicker, with greater content. Is it all just down to there being more advertisers, who can afford to spend, because women purchase more, in most areas? They most certainly do not have greater content! The crud about x celeb daring to eat lunch or y celeb walking down a beach is not what I would call content. I can't say for the paper quality, there is nothing wrong with the quality of the paper used in our mag but the womens mags are almost entirely funded by advertisers anyway with some mags taking up 78% of pages with adverts! (Vogue) One significant factor is that cosmetic companies are prepared to pay an awful lot more for a page of advertising space than the average R/C manufacturer/vendor. So the income per advertising page for fashion magazines etc is a lot higher than in our hobby area I suspect. Perhaps that is an insight into the realitve wealth invested in aeromodelling compared to "female manitanance" BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I think if you lads spent less time n money on fashion mags, you'd get more modelling/flying done and be a few quid better off. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 As a subscriber to Q and E (amongst many modelling mags) I did receive my November copy so it does exist Kevin. However if you read the inside rear cover you will see that Novembers edition is the last. A real shame but understandable in today's financial climate. I am sure we will see Traplet condense their varied range into a single modelling magazine. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 216 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hi Danny, Thanks for the info I will try another shop, Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I sincerely hope that we don't see any other hard copy mags go the wall, clearly they do have a place alongside on-line content but I do fear that mags that try to cover everything are batting on a sticky wicket and will find it difficult to retain readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I tend to disagree Cuban 8, the mags that are the most vulnerable are the ones that become too specialised as the readership pool diminishes. Advertisers will go with titles that have a large circulations to make it worth their while. I subscribed to Q&EFI for years but after a while I thought it became rather bland and repetitive so stopped my subscription, - so it is my fault! I wanted a broader content, after all, I am a jack of all trades and master of none! Some people have criticised RCM&E's increased coverage of 'drones' and multicopters. This is the growth area whether you think it is part of 'our hobby' or not, so the mag must embrace it to attract new readership. Personally I have been following Shahid Banglawala's development of his Angleview Black multicopter with great interest during the past few months as it puts the 'E' back into RCM&E. Alternatively I am not personally interested in the Quad reviews or indeed the latest Chinese ARTF imports although a lot of people are, so they need to be in the magazine. It is analogous to all the 'rubbish' they put on prime time TV. I am not interested in soaps or game shows (I would rather be sanding little bits of balsa) but the TV channels have to cater for the masses for the viewing figures, which are akin to the mag's circulation figures. The hobby is diverse, so the editorial staff try and include something for everyone but it is probably a case of, you can't please all of the people all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Can we at least make an effort to stay on-topic, please, folks?..... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ralph Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Posted by Glenn Ryan on 02/11/2015 09:31:17: Hmmm not happy I tell you. It's now November and still no sign of my Special Edition here in Australia. Is anyone else having this problem down here. Is there someone I can speak to about the whereabouts of it. Glenn, I received my copy in Tasmania yesterday(9/11)., and the Nov issue today. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nongnaphat saehang Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 glenn ryan, here in thailand ( special edition 10-29, nov issue 11-6 ) my nephew was a little worried lost in post. all ok now, will we see next month ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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