Wingman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Am I the only person to have been sent this email??? I thought the forum would be buzzing about it by now?, or has everybody just ignored it? . I have completed the survey (survey monkey!!) but it seemed to me that some of the questions were actually checks on the answers I had given to previous questions but, then, I'm highly suspicious, not to mention extremely sceptical, about any kind of government questionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I have completed that survey. Not surprisingly many of the questions concentrate on the commercial use of drones and model aircraft rather than the pure hobbyist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Not heard or seen a sausage about it, nothing in BMFA news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I didn't notice this communication from the CAA, I probably ignored it as not relevant. It's some time since I did the RCC so I wouldn't be able to remember all the correct answers to the irrelevant (to me) drone questions so I definitely won't be engaging with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Its nothing to worry about. I suspect they have finally realised that reporting methods (if you aren't doing it via the BMFA members reporting portal) are ridiculous and barely relevant for unmanned aircraft. It is one of the issues the BMFA have had with reporting requirements and why we got agreement that members can use our reporting portal which makes the process simple and intuitive and most importantly relevant. Incident reporting is a good thing and absolutely nothing for responsible flyers to worry about. Everyone who has registered with the CAA should have received the email. I would recommend everyone engages with the survey. If nothing else it shows model aircraft flyers are responsible and take safety matters seriously. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Sweeting 1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Yes, I had the email and have completed the survey to the best of my simple minded, hobbyist abilities. Sadly it was prepared by someone who doesn't read their own writing. Answer one question and the next one assumes a previous answer was the one feeding this question. But we try our best with quangos don't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I filled out the survey but as to what use my answers are to them, I really can't fathom. looks good to see that we engage with them though I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ditto, Cuban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Muir Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I haven't had one. I'm feeling left out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Wingman said: ...I have completed the survey (survey monkey!!)... Great to see they used a completely fit for purpose platform for this survey... ? And no, I didn't offer them my email address at the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nope not seen it, only recent e-mail I have had from the CAA is the reminder to renew my operator ID. Has this just been sent to those you have a CAA flyer ID? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Got the strange impression from the survey that the reporting system isn't quite working as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It appears the survey email only went to those that registered directly with the CAA. I do read the AAIB reports every month and they regularly include those for the UAV 'commercial' accidents. A bit worrying how big a percentage of those are the result of a loss of control from suspected ESC failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I have always registered via the BMFA but I got the CAA email about the survey. I do have a Flyer ID though so perhaps that explains it. Just completed the survey as best I could, but it does seem to be mainly aimed at commercial RPAS operators. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Simon Chaddock said: A bit worrying how big a percentage of those are the result of a loss of control from suspected ESC failure. I suspect it's a convenient excuse for failure of the non-electronic speed controller - ie the pilot. to be fair, failure of an ESC/motor/prop causing one corner of your drone to lose lift is pretty catastrophic - somewhat akin to one wing of a plane falling off ! Edited February 1, 2022 by andyh . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, andyh said: I suspect it's a convenient excuse for failure of the non-electronic speed controller - ie the pilot. to be fair, failure of an ESC/motor/prop causing one corner of your drone to lose lift is pretty catastrophic - somewhat akin to one wing of a plane falling off ! True for a quad, but commercial users carrying large payloads should be using an octo or hex setup which is capable of landing under control even with a motor out. If they aren’t and it comes down due to an ESC or motor failure then that in itself is a failure of the pilot to choose the right tool for the job. Even so, I do agree with you about this being a bit of a smokescreen… I strongly suspect the majority of “ESC” failures are actually pilot errors of one sort or another, or a failure to understand and use the many automated systems likely to be installed on the average commercial UAV. Edited February 1, 2022 by MattyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The related aspect to these comercial UAV failures and thus any 'hobby' failure is the AAIB have pointed out that a 5 kg weight falling uncontrolled from 20 m could be considered potentially lethal to an 'unprotected' member of the general public. They made no recommendation but......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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