hassanizhar Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Why Nepal plane crash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Ill let you know in a few years when the accident report is out. All we know so far from the video is that it was low, slow, stalled, and crashed. The why is yet to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It looked just like one of our models- bit slow and then tip stalled. I looked at the videos including passenger video and could not really see if the flaps were extended or perhaps not extended as much as seen on other landing videos. Did anyone else notice that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 As you say KC, Flaps are not clearly seen. The Australian Accident Investigator sees the " nose high " approach bringing on the stall. A normal approach is level to nose down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Channing Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 23 hours ago, kc said: It looked just like one of our models- bit slow and then tip stalled. I looked at the videos including passenger video and could not really see if the flaps were extended or perhaps not extended as much as seen on other landing videos. Did anyone else notice that? Those Two videos have already found to be fake and disproven by the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassanizhar Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 24/01/2023 at 17:30, Jon - Laser Engines said: Ill let you know in a few years when the accident report is out. All we know so far from the video is that it was low, slow, stalled, and crashed. The why is yet to be determined. slow investigation is the biggest fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassanizhar Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 25/01/2023 at 17:40, Jason Channing said: Those Two videos have already found to be fake and disproven by the authorities. ohh really but these videos are viral on earth like corona.🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lima Hotel Foxtrot Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 The debate here seems very ghoulish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, hassanizhar said: slow investigation is the biggest fault. Well that depends. Do you want it done quickly or thoroughly? Cant have both. 18 minutes ago, Lima Hotel Foxtrot said: The debate here seems very ghoulish. I dont think the human cost is lost on anyone here. Its a given and does not need discussion. The thing being discussed is why, just as was discussed on the other thread regarding the accident in the US between the P63 and B17 without any issues. Disasters in general are fascinating things to study. Understanding why a thing happened is important, especially to those who may change rules or whatever to prevent them happening again. Also consider we make movies about them and watch for entertainment. Something which is arguably more ghoulish than our conversation here. I can virtually guarantee kids will be playing a Battlefield Ukraine computer game in years to come in the same way i play a WWII combat flight sim for my amusement and entertainment today while observing a minutes silence on Nov 11...Humans are a strange bunch. Rather contradictory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lima Hotel Foxtrot Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jon - Laser Engines said: Well that depends. Do you want it done quickly or thoroughly? Cant have both. I dont think the human cost is lost on anyone here. Its a given and does not need discussion. The thing being discussed is why, just as was discussed on the other thread regarding the accident in the US between the P63 and B17 without any issues. Disasters in general are fascinating things to study. Understanding why a thing happened is important, especially to those who may change rules or whatever to prevent them happening again. Also consider we make movies about them and watch for entertainment. Something which is arguably more ghoulish than our conversation here. I can virtually guarantee kids will be playing a Battlefield Ukraine computer game in years to come in the same way i play a WWII combat flight sim for my amusement and entertainment today while observing a minutes silence on Nov 11...Humans are a strange bunch. Rather contradictory. I agree absolutely, but one has to admit that going into amateur forensic detail by picking over the events leading up to (and the aftermath) of a tragedy is, well, a bit hmmmmmmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I can't say I'm a fan of accident threads either, but we can skip threads we don't enjoy. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, hassanizhar said: ohh really but these videos are viral on earth like corona.🙄 Obviously you have never heard of fake news. The thing that frightens me is the imminent arrival of deep fake videos that can make anything look real. It's ban enough now to try and sort the wheat from the chaff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Lima Hotel Foxtrot said: The debate here seems very ghoulish. The ghoulish thing is sick people making fake videos of air crashes. It seems to be the worst side of human nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, Piers Bowlan said: The ghoulish thing is sick people making fake videos of air crashes. It seems to be the worst side of human nature. I would agree with that. trying to cash in on a tragedy with fake videos is disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassanizhar Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 03/02/2023 at 20:08, Lima Hotel Foxtrot said: I agree absolutely, but one has to admit that going into amateur forensic detail by picking over the events leading up to (and the aftermath) of a tragedy is, well, a bit hmmmmmmm. yeah you are right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Human error can always seem to find a way to defeat the best designed systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Acland Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Frightening that this sort of error can still happen despite all the training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Training, a joke, my Brother now retired (Bea, then Swiss air )complained a few times about the lack of proper training but was consistently ignored and worse still reprimanded as also he would not join the 'special handshake' mob, he finally wrote a book about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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