Steve Colman Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I was about to get a Valiant 10 cc. Then I came across this pretty semi scale Cessna 150 by Sebart. Both around the same price, very similar size. Both trainer type high wingers but capable of aerobatics. Valiant has flaps, Cessna no flaps but leading edge slats, Cessna up to 1Kg lighter. Have everything suitable for Valiant apart from motor. Have everything suitable for Cessna apart from servos. So would be more or less equal financially. Now I have a dilemma. So, if it were you, which would you choose and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Christy Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The Valiant! I don't know either model, but the undercarriage on the Cessna looks "stalky" and fragile - and I like tail-draggers! -- Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Carpenter Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Sebart. If it flies as well as all his other designs then it will be superb ! The Shark with slats will hover , motor off , in a12 mph wind ! Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The Valient for the same reasons as Pete. Geoff PS but you know which one you really want already. You're just putting off the decision to give us a little entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Kremen Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Paved runway or grass? Trikes, (especially typical 'thin/weak'n'wobbly ARTF u/c ones), fair better on paved or smooth surfaces. If your field has short grass, ground is hard, then trikes can work with a little care. Having said that, even taildragger u/c wire assemblies, as supplied in many (not all), kits can be 'wobbly' and bend in anything but the lightest arrival. My choice as you're asking - The Sebart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Colman Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 A 2 each draw at the moment and some interesting posts which I thank you for. Peter, I prefer tail draggers too ! Colin, I have a Shark so very familiar with it's flying abilities. I also have an Angel too. The only decent video of the Cessna shows it to be equally impressive as all Sebart designs. Capt Kremen, flying field has 2 tarmac runways so no problem. And, finally Geoff. No I haven't made a decision yet and I really can't decide. In an ideal world I would have both in a shot but that's just not possible unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Carpenter Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Steve - with those 2 in your stable I doubt it’s flying capabilities will be much different! FMS Avanti!!! Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex nicol Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Valiant, I prefer tail dragges ......... checkout the you tube videos on the Valiant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Posted by alex nicol on 08/08/2020 21:29:18: Valiant, I prefer tail dragges ......... checkout the you tube videos on the Valiant +1. Though I would like the 30cc size. I can see them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cripps Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Valiant - with floats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Laughton Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Posted by Colin Carpenter on 08/08/2020 18:22:55: Sebart. If it flies as well as all his other designs then it will be superb ! The Shark with slats will hover , motor off , in a12 mph wind ! Colin Colin is correct - the Sebart range fly wonderfully as pattern aerobats and/or 3D models. They have no vices and are light/strong. Set them up with minimum throws and a less experienced pilot can fly them well - usually land slowly too if set up correctly. Out of the entire range the Wind S 50 would be my recommended favourite . Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Valiant for me. looks fun easy to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 IMHO, Location of wheels makes no difference (for you) Not flown either so I would go with the Valiant as it has flaps that you can deploy when you want (I assume the slats are fixed) and thus extends the flight performance range (for me a bit more interesting long term). ….One question, please do let us know what you choose and why + how you get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 +1 for the Valiant. The other one looks dorky with that all too obviously model aeroplane undercarriage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Valiant. I quite like the H9 kits, and while the Sebart stuff that I've seen fly well they're not as substantial if you fly from grass and won't cope as well with ham-fisted landings. And the 'Cessna' does look a bit dorky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Valiant, 'cos it looks a bit Citabria-ish (but needs bigger spats and wheels - those fitted look under-proportioned) Not the Cessna, 'cos it looks like a Cessna... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Colman Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 I did some empirical research of a sort this morning using the 3 models in the photo. Whilst not exactly scientific the result is that "The flaps have it" Many thanks to all that contributed. Now, I'll have to sell a couple of models to fund the purchase of my new Valiant. Unless of course, I come across something else ....................................... Edited By Steve Colman on 11/08/2020 17:05:38 Edited By Steve Colman on 11/08/2020 17:07:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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