SIMON CRAGG Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Chaps Bit of a long shot this. I am 72, had all the Covid jabs and as far as I know have not had Covid (But I MIGHT have in the early days). Over the last year or so, I have been experiencing worse and worse back pain, (Private consultations ££££££ etc etc.). I was about to have major spinal fusion on Tuesday this week, but a couple weeks prior to the op the main leg pain disappeared for no apparent reason. I have now been referred to yet another specialist £££, who has heard / seen this before, and thinks it MIGHT be something to do with my cranial nerves being disrupted by Covid. It all sounds a bit weird / science fiction to me to say the least. Has anybody any experience of this sort of thing?. All modelling, gardening, you name it is on hold until I get this sorted. I can feel my usual happy, busy self slipping away, my mental state not good. Thought I would ask on here, as a lot of us are of a similar age, and I cannot understand most of the stuff churned up on Google etc!. Thanks in advance Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I had my 4th jab 07/07/2022, and I have had a lot of problems, spots all over my chest and stomach 2 weeks after the 4th jab, I have had 5 different treatments to no avail, doctors and dermatologies, now down my arms, they normally disappear after lunch and still on a 3-month treatment, not forgetting, breathlessness, leg muscles that give up after a 2klm walk, bronchitis that is still hanging on since November, coughing and some sort of sinus (1 month of treatments) laryngitis and still have a stinking cold after 4 weeks sweating with a running nose,,, but still breathing, 71 years young,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Have you had a MRI scan, earlier this year I developed debilitating pain in my neck and down my left shoulder and arm. On the.mend 🤞 now, but a MRI scan revealed a bulging disc pushing on a nerve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBaron Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 If you read up on the Covid vaccines apparently none of them had any sensible testing with a sensible selection test group Good books to read are: "Covid and why everything you know is wrong" It is also worth / necessary to read up on magnesium supplementation and also large doses of Vitamin C If you think it worth sticking to the usually quoted RDA doses perhaps you can tell me what experimental backing they have I expect this will be deleted as not toeing the party line but I believe that ones health is ones own responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cracknell Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I am 68, have an enlarged heart, a pacemaker, type 2 diabetes and a daily dose of betablockers and steroids. I have had every Covid jab, boosters and flu jabs and can honestly say I have not even had a sore arm from any of them. Maybe I am either made of cast iron or just plain lucky! Edited June 1, 2023 by Robert Cracknell Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul devereux Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I'm 68, I trained as a Covid vaccinator as my last job! I had one of the first jabs due to my job, I've had three boosters (mixed AstraZeneca and Pfizer) and two flu vaccinations since then. No side effects whatsoever. Had a sore upper arm for a day twice due to the injection. My personal view is that complaints people attribute to the vaccine are due to coincidence. And let's face it, we are of an age to get aches and pains anyway. Lawrence Fox and his ilk are doing great harm by spreading misinformation: Edited June 1, 2023 by paul devereux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Chest/lung issues all my life, any allergies out there I tend to get em, penicilin, ibuprofen, allergic to anti histamines, get bad hayfever so that's fun, had all the jabs in the early days of the Covid, suffered no ill effects nor has any of my family, mate of mine is built like the proverbial brick outhouse, give him his anual flu jab n he's a wreck for a fortnight, nowt so queer as folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I am 75. I have had three Covid jabs and hardly had a sore arm but I think I may have had covid in 2019. I had the flu in the February and another dose in the March and I always thought that if you'd had a dose of the flu, you were immune for several weeks after. I take statins, a blood pressure tablet and something to thin the blood and apart from arthritic knees and being a little overweight, I'm fine. I was given a dog about eighteen months ago and we go for two good walks every day which take at least 25 minutes each. I'm sure that helps. Guess I'm just lucky. I watch what I eat but I drink too much wine. A man has to have some pleasures! My kid sister died of pancreatic cancer last September. She was two years younger than me, kept herself fit, rarely ate red meat and didn't even drink tea with tannin in it. Edited June 1, 2023 by David Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 As I am over 75 I have had all the additional Covid booster jabs as well as the basic ones, so 6 in total so far, without any side effects. As far as I know I have never had Covid. OK, I do have a few aching and sore muscles right now but I put that down to the 1.5 hour karate training I did last night – a weekly regular for me. Last week I did pull a muscle in my back, but I was struggling to prune a largish bush at the time so I don’t think I can put that down to Covid/jab after effects. I definitely think I am more susceptible to injury and slower to recover these days, but at 76 I put that down to the normal effects of ageing. To be honest I think we can all expect muscle/joint and other problems as we get older, and certainly in the over 70s. Dick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zflyer Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Every up has a down. I remain to be convinced that there are not some side effects. However i do nit think they are severe in a large scale. Get up get on life will wear us all out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I believe the only way to establish the cause of persistent back pain is through an MRI scan. Trouble is, at our age, this will show several ‘abnormalities’ and it is often not easy even for the specialists to sort out which one may be causing the pain. Sciatica (severe leg pain resulting from pressure in the nerve in the back) is excruciating. I had surgery to relieve this 18 years ago and it was an instant fix. I’ve taken good care of my back since then but still managed to pop the next disc up about 4years ago. Every bit as painful but this time it resolved itself without surgery. If your issue is similar, I.e. pressure on the sciatic nerve, then once that pressure is relieved, whether through healing, improved posture, exercise, manipulation, anti-inflammatories or whatever, the pain will just go away in an instant. I hope this is what has happened for you Simon, and you can be spared the fusion op. Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Oh please don't let this turn into an RCGroups type thread where it's debated ad nauseum, with people offering medical advice based on false/unproven information....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I had an accident in 1986, 3 weeks of hospital, 12 months sleeping on a bit of foam and a plank, I should have had my L4/L5 vertebrae screw together, but refused, a decent osteopath and proper education on how to lift weights, getting into and out of cars ,weight loss and a car with decent seats is the way to go, I rarely get sciatica but know how to treat it. Why not GG, I have nothing to build, repair and too sick to fly, so here I am on my keyboard moaning,,,😅 it's a therapy on its own, now for a dip in the pool,,, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Chat looks fine to me, just some oldies laying out their woes, not as good as the Jaws one mind. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron evans Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Hi Simon, sorry to hear of your back problems, can't help on that front I'm afraid, except to say my retired brother in law was laid low and immobilized for six weeks with a back and then it got better as quickly as it came. I am 75 and take meds for Rheumatoid Arthritis which puts me in the vulnerable bunch. I've had 6 jabs and been very careful over the last two years. Despite that I managed to catch covid at Christmas, and it was the most ill I have ever been, and even now I am not as fit or confident as I was before the bug, I occasionally check my blood pressure, and It's always been fine, but after covid it has shot up. My doc thought it was unconnected until he checked online, and there it was, elevated blood pressure, along with a list of other ailments brought on after covid. Oh well another lot of tablets to take. I hope you get the back sorted soon. Ron Edited June 1, 2023 by ron evans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 20 hours ago, SIMON CRAGG said: Chaps Bit of a long shot this. I am 72, had all the Covid jabs and as far as I know have not had Covid (But I MIGHT have in the early days). Over the last year or so, I have been experiencing worse and worse back pain, (Private consultations ££££££ etc etc.). I was about to have major spinal fusion on Tuesday this week, but a couple weeks prior to the op the main leg pain disappeared for no apparent reason. I have now been referred to yet another specialist £££, who has heard / seen this before, and thinks it MIGHT be something to do with my cranial nerves being disrupted by Covid. It all sounds a bit weird / science fiction to me to say the least. Has anybody any experience of this sort of thing?. All modelling, gardening, you name it is on hold until I get this sorted. I can feel my usual happy, busy self slipping away, my mental state not good. Thought I would ask on here, as a lot of us are of a similar age, and I cannot understand most of the stuff churned up on Google etc!. Thanks in advance Simon Sorry to hear that Simon. I've had 2 bouts - first was worse and was about 18 months ago, then a milder bout about 6 weeks ago. No painful lasting effects but I do still feel weaker, and more tired; also a little 'brain fog' which seems too coincidental to be just old age. Oh, and more 'Victor Meldrew' moments, although that seems to be passing............. thankfully my wife is relatively understanding! Hang in there buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 19 hours ago, RedBaron said: Covid and why everything you know is wrong Hmm A book written by an inexperienced doctor, who qualified as a doctor about a year before writing it vs The absolute rafts of information out there from the scientific community, produced by actual epidemiologists, who have been in the game of communicable disease monitoring and control for many, many collective years I know which I'd trust. 19 hours ago, paul devereux said: Lawrence Fox and his ilk are doing great harm by spreading misinformation: Never a truer word. A bunch of shysters preying on the fearful. 19 hours ago, David Davis said: a dose of the flu, you were immune for several weeks after You are DD... but only to that particular strain and any closely related strains (how closely related, I do not know) The annual flu jabs, I believe they target three strains every year, the three are picked out by looking at what the most prevalent (or maybe dangerous) strains in circulation are, around autumn time. So even the flu jab does not guarantee you will not get "a" flu - just much less chance of the "likely" flu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 21 hours ago, SIMON CRAGG said: I was about to have major spinal fusion on Tuesday this week, but a couple weeks prior to the op the main leg pain disappeared for no apparent reason. My wife experiences bouts of lower back and leg pain. It comes and goes for seemingly no good reason. Sometimes she can have months without any pain, sometimes constant, sometimes it is minor, and other times she has been laid up in bed for a day or two. She's never had covid, but she does have arthritis. It took a while for it to be diagnosed correctly and the right medication to be worked out. Perhaps there are many things out there that can cause what you are experiencing. I would be wary of trying to pin it on something using what appears only a tenuous connection. That said, I wish all the best in getting it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul devereux Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 16 hours ago, GrumpyGnome said: Oh please don't let this turn into an RCGroups type thread where it's debated ad nauseum, with people offering medical advice based on false/unproven information....... Agreed.Simon didn't ask for a debate, he just asked for personal experiences, which are more valuable than suppositions and statistics imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 Thank you all for you input and kind words. First session with a well respected ££££££ Physio today. Lets hope I can finally get a resolution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul devereux Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, SIMON CRAGG said: Thank you all for you input and kind words. First session with a well respected ££££££ Physio today. Lets hope I can finally get a resolution. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 Wow, is all I can say. Hips not engaging properly Walking right shoulder down. Hips twisted to the right. Lots of other stuff I didn't understand. etc etc etc!. A couple of simple exercises to do three times a day. Plus careful / timed hot and cold treatment. Two hours well spent to say the least. Early days of course, but in a couple of months I should be back up the field!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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