RICHARD WILLS Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 Thank you Learner . I am impressed that you built two models at all, considering your fellow members lack of interest . Please keep watching the thread and you will see the enthusiasm and fun we have from the simple act of construction . Lets face it , isn't that how Lego and Airfix became world wide brands ? I do take your point though . The members you mentioned are in every club and they are an entirely different kind of person . Different but of course not bad . However if they struggle to bolt a wing on before they fly , then I wonder how long it will be before the onerous task of putting on their trousers, before leaving the house, confines them to a life behind doors ?🤣 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I don't think that the "struggle" to put on a wing at the field should be taken as a reluctance to build a model. I really appreciate not rigging models at the field and so greatly favour one piece models that can fit in the car fully rigged. We were only discussing at the field yesterday morning the hassle with biplanes, due to the rigging required and the solutions possible, such as the Puppeteer which travels with the wings rigged, but with the fuselage split behind the cockpit to allow it to fit in the car. I think in my smaller club of 14 members at least 9 build, or have build, balsa aeroplanes, at least 11 build or have built foam aeroplanes. In my larger club of 35 members there are at least 20 that I have seen have built balsa aeroplanes and a similar number who have built with foam. The balsa builders include quite a few very active scratch builders. Out of all those I don;t think anyone particularly relishes rigging a model at the field. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, RICHARD WILLS said: Thank you Learner . I am impressed that you built two models at all, considering your fellow members lack of interest . Please keep watching the thread and you will see the enthusiasm and fun we have from the simple act of construction . Lets face it , isn't that how Lego and Airfix became world wide brands ? I do take your point though . The members you mentioned are in every club and they are an entirely different kind of person . Different but of course not bad . However if they struggle to bolt a wing on before they fly , then I wonder how long it will be before the onerous task of putting on their trousers, before leaving the house, confines them to a life behind doors ?🤣 I think at least 1/2 have got to that stage going by numbers at recent flying days. Both builds have now been sold complete and ready to fly to fellow members so may build a couple more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Sorry to keep going back to my experiences with the Hanky Planky Foamy Foamy! Out of the 20 'kits' sold, I think that 7 or 8 were built by club members who hadn't built anything before, albeit they are all seasoned flyers! The main reason they built them (apart from the cost!!!) was that there was a year long competition that they could enter into, not all have, and it looked like it could be good fun, which it really has been. One club member came up to me on Sunday and said that he was going to give up the sport having not flown for the last year and had lost interest but he decided to enter into the spirit of the Hankies. As a result he is now enjoying the sport more than he ever did and loves the way that this has brought club members closer together! Nuff said for me, that comment was the best thing that has come out of this exercise. I do believe that we can do the same with Richard's new models, all it needs is for us each to encourage a couple of others to join in the fun, cos that is exactly what it will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 I cant get enough of Hanky Panky .... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Only my limited experience and observation as I decided to build Lindsay Todd's Renaissance a few years back due to the forum enthusiasm for mass builds and what really sealed it for me was the meet up at Buckminster for a fly of the models and meet Lindsay for chat! From that experience and when the club I belong to announced a mass build of Peter Miller's Ohmen I was in for one of those. Interestingly most of the active club members built one so we must have ended up with about 8 being built, which has not been repeated since. Why, well in my opinion because if you ask 10 modellers what they would like to build then you get 20 answers! IC is dead for this size and the old boy builders will add/change the design to suit themselves and the youngsters (+ those that find fitting a wing too much like hard work) stick with the standard kit. That just leaves the odd builder that just has to make it 6S and a power to weight ratio of 2:1 Buckminster - yes, 80th D-Day date should be avoided as people will have commitments elsewhere. Put me down for one of each, whatever is decided As has been mentioned, a good flyer essential and I would say value for money but not necessarily cheap. Easy/quickish build preferred (bear in mind how long it takes an Ohmen so anything is a positive). The last and most important thing it will all hinge of spreading the work to club members to get them involved to boost the numbers for Richard. PS Consider the most popular models at clubs, in the past there are a lot for Chris Foss designs, why because they are good fliers, but now priced out of the market. Now the Small Arrows edf's why? They fly well and are relatively cheap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan h Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Hi Richard, Anymore more thoughts - updates on a chosen model & size? I am also looking for a winter build. Cheers Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I think the `chosen ones` are Hawker Tempest and FW190, Richard can give us the spec, i think they will be for 3 or 4 cell lipo packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Thats right Martin . 52-54 ". light at around 4.5 lb . Will fly on 3 or 4s . I will give ideas on cheap power trains and simple finishes that look fab . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan h Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 OK great Thanks guys Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eflightray Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Boy, am I glad I don' t do scale, and am partly color blind. I always looked at building and flying as my fun 😉 Ray. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyg1 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Hi chaps Having just "caught up" with this thread which ever you decide on ? It will be 52fs power for me, being not gone over too " the dark side " 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 Aha! I bet you thought I'd nipped out the back and disappeared , didnt you ? Well no . I actually knuckled down and to draw the Fw190 . Then sent a copy to my old buddy Phil the kit cutter . And guess what arrived today ? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 I havent applied glue in any of these pictures as I'm just figuring out whats missing and what other details we need . But in the quick mock , it looks like a super quick build . Plus the shape is definitely on the money . The cowl will have an ABS nose ring (I'm making the mould at the moment ) but with a ply wrap for the main part . The Gun trough section between 11 o'clock and 1 will be removable and the battery/batteries will drop in vertically . That way we get all the weight up the front which for both 190 and Tempest is normally a problem . Paul would have said , "why dont you tidy your bench first ? My middle name is Paul , but I never use it... Get things done quicker if I skip the tidying ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 The rather nice Gun deck show is a superb 3D rendition by Paul Johnson (many thanks ) . A resin cast will be made and everyone will get a nice Vac formed version which will be ready to paint . I do also have a stock of proper FW190 aluminium spinners for this design . They are pre cut with two slots which will be the preferred prop as these fellas will be belly flopping for the most part . If people want to risk a 3 blade , the FMS zero spinner and prop looks the part but is prone to breakage . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I’m all excited now, brilliant work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Nice work Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just what I don't need another winter project, but looking forward to it 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Blimey Richard, super quick action on getting these underway, already told my other half that she is getting me a Tempest kit for Christmas 😉 Watching the proto build with interest......M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Richard, i have a couple of tables at the Buckminster Bring & Buy a week on Sunday, if you want to knock up a leaflet with some advertising/sales bump, contact details and a price i am happy to print them off and stick em on the table to try and catch a few more punters for the kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Thanks Martin , what a star you are . I think i would put myself under too much pressure though . I'm still wrestling with the big Loco kit I market and what with Crimbo on the Horizon Ive got to make you lads the priority . If I dont have to document too much of the first batch build I should be able to get 190s and Tempests to the faithful on time . Hopefully the thread will pad out the instructions . Edited October 5, 2023 by RICHARD WILLS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Since when did instructions help? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I find instructions useful Ron, they tell you where the parts go that you have left after building the kit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, RICHARD WILLS said: Thanks Martin , what a star you are . I think i would put myself under too much pressure though . I'm still wrestling with the big Loco kit I market and what with Crimbo on the Horizon Ive got to make you lads the priority . If I dont have to document too much of the first batch build I should be able to get 190s and Tempests to the faithful on time . Hopefully the thread will pad out the instructions . Instructions??? INSTRUCTIONS????? I barely got all the bits! And some of those were from other aircraft, just to keep me on me toes... ***Disclaimer: I didn't get actual kits, but what could be best described as 'workshop sweepings'. Warbirds Replicas ACTUAL kits are superb... 😀 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 I can see us having some fun with this one . I need to get the cowl mould done and attempt a first vac form for the prototype , but the rest should come together quickly . Im not going to post loads of detail shots on this prototype as a few little things might get tweaked . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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