toto Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 Nothing done last night. I had a PC built which arrived a couple of weeks ago which has been sitting in the box untested. I thought I'd better get it hooked up and try it out to make sure that it was working before too much time passed. Got it linked up with windows 11 and downloaded some software for some equipment that I will be using on it. All went relatively well with the exception of a bit of editing hardware for a Blackmagic speed editor which is ongoing. Everything other than that seems tickety boo. So dismantled it all and it's sitting in its box again awaiting it's permanent installation in the shed. So with that done and my mind at ease ..... irs time to hit the shed again so I'll be carrying on as above in my last progress post. ..... more vents and Ply lining. Catch you all later. Toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 (edited) Got a spare pair of hands for Saturday..... My electrician buddy ...... so the plan is to knock out as much of the side wall that I have just started as possible because when that is done ...... I can let him work on the installation of the dado trunking ( on Saturday) whilst my son and I race on with the vents and Ply liner. The front wall is the most congested with electrical services with the rest of the walls only having the odd socket or two. These are not captured with dado trunking ... but with individual " fast fix " boxes ..... much easier to deal with ( but not as flexible for the future ). We can therefore look forward to the rapid installation of vents and Ply lining over the weekend. The majority of the remaining work will be the sheeting and fitting out of the ceiling with Iights and camera / data equipment. My head is spinning but I think it will be worth it to have a good quality multi - purpose recreation area. Cheers for now Toto Edited November 13 by toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 I'll be glad when we get moved in, you promised us videos. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 Now the pressure is on. As usual ... all the equipment is there ..... just needs the backup. ..... the videos will be rough as I, like everyone, have to perfect my craft ..... but as soon as I get things up and running , will provide an introductory video that sets the scene for what's to come. As you will know .... I have tried to cover my posts by photo bombing my tracks but probably have not covered some of the points that some may wanted to have seen. .... I am hoping that video coverage may just show a bit more. As with everyone, with experience, things will cover more. My posts will hopefully involve minimal photos focused more on individual points based on my videos. It all seams a bit heavy but...... give me space .... and time .... and I think my theory will work ..... some may just yawn .... I know a name that rhymes with that . Let's wait and see ..... Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 9 minutes ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: I'll be glad when we get moved in, you promised us videos. 😉 Don't encourage him, there'll be a 4 part series of the extractor fan going round 😜 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 I'll need to delete that one now ...... spoilsport. You can rest assured ..... it will take a bit of time for ..... take one ...... to arrive ...... the main shed build comes first before the video / audio set up starts. ..... a few photo bombs to come first ..... Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 Don't know what happened to the above but 3 /4 of the post miissing nothing important anyway ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Phew, that’s a result. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 Better results to come Ron. I'll finish of this mancave build as there are folks tuning in to it. It seems like it is of interest to some folks so I have to presume some folks are getting something out of it. I do realise it's not up everyone's street so rather than risk subjecting the forum to more of the same in the future, I'll take my ramblings off line and bung them up on Utube ( once I get familiar with it ). I must admit, I much prefer the forum format due to the multi way interaction. My school of thought was to introduce some videos ( in the future ) in order to cut back on the reliance of so many photos and use the forum otherwise as I have. ...... its a great forum ..... however, I dare say that Utube could work equally as well. ..... just think ..... a toto free zone ..... now ..... that's a result. I'll bung up my Utube channel name once I have sorted that out .... it'll let you avoid it. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I think what you’re doing is fine Toto, it’s just, from my own perspective, seeing individual photos for every screw / nail you put in is a bit OTT. It’s a bit like a build blog, photos showing each rib being stuck in place is a bit of a yawn, you don’t need loads of photos to show what you’re doing. At the end of the day you can continue doing what you’re doing, it’s up to me to decided if I want to view it, that’s the beauty of the forum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 No worries Ron. I appreciate the constructive comments. Maybe time to try to " thin out " the more repetitive elements. I'll do my best to avoid more of the same. Cheers Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Remember, less is more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 Yes ... in many cases it is. I think that it's maybe not everyone that understands some of the processes as easily so I try to play to the lowest common denominator. I don't mind admitting that I am very much in that category when it comes to certain things ... some techy stuff being a good example for me. I personally like folks to dumb things down for me as sometimes I need that to get my head around things. However, Building what is more or less a garden shed .... albeit .... with some extras, probably does not fall into that category. If anyone shouts out for further info as a result of me slimming things down, provided what they want to see isn't covered up by permanently installed elements, I will happily come back with what they want. ..... maybe a good compromise I think. Thanks again Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 No No No Ron, how can less be more? Surely more is more. More or less ernie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john davidson 1 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 The reason I have been tuning in , the financial controller is talking of a new kitchen so if I offer to recycle the cabinets and worktops there might just be an opening for a new workshop. may not be a good as yours, but still........... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 (edited) Hi John .... you work with what you have. I had looked at kitchen cabinets and carcasses but don't have any used available. To buy new Is extortionate so I have decided to create my own worktop and storage unit's etc from MDF when it comes to fit out time. Your recycled units will work just fine even more so if you are working from a level base. .... are you managing to scavenge the old work tops as well ? What type of space are you thinking of setting up as the workshop ..... shed, garage or spare room , attic etc ? Whatever it is you have just saved yourself a fortune with the units. Let us know what you are planning as I for one would be very interested to hear your plans ..... good luck with the build whenever it starts. Cheers for now and I hope you continue to check in and maybe get some ideas from my build. Toto Edited November 14 by toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Someone famous once said "you can't please all the people, all of the time"..... (or something similar) don't let us influence what you post toto. Despite the general age demographic, we can all choose to read or not, and scroll down if necessary. Re YT, you can invite comments on your videos. Probably not as civilised as you're used to though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 (edited) Thanks Grumpy. It's a fine line to walk ...... too much ..... not enough .... we all like a certain format to what we tune into I think. Personally , I think you can't break things down enough for me but others are happy with a summarised version. Maybe they have their own in depth understanding of how to do things, however some need lead by the hand. ..... you can't win as you have more or less said. In the same breath, I don't want to switch anybody off all together. I think part of my new idea of trying to turn photo heavy posts into ( mainly) video enhanced posts is that folks can hopefully get as much of the detail without me verbally banging on about it. .... I will still provide some kind of commentary with video but other elements will hopefully be self explanatory by physically watching how I do it. .... any clarity raised after watching a video can be further augmented by ( hopefully ) providing the odd still shot. ..... in theory. Meanwhile I will trundle on with my usual format , be mindful to try to thin out what and how many images are actually really needed. .... the videos are still a little way off yet but they will come. I think forum life is great and I don't think I'd like to abandon it in favour of a 100% Utube switch as I would miss the interaction that the forum offers. A good mix of both will work fine Cheers for your comments. Toto Edited November 14 by toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Personally I find it easier to skim through photos and text to find what I want rather than an ambling video that is off topic or contains very diverse tasks. Not that you have done it but an example would be a 45 minute video titled "base, walls, roof and ventilation" The first 5 minutes you cover everything in your last video (pointless as I had just watch that!) then really in depth on base, walls and roof and completely fail to mention ventilation or just say something like "I'll cover that later" but never title any more videos with the word ventilation making it almost impossible to find that unless all the other hours and hours of video are watched. I appreciate one can scroll or fast forward through the videos but IMO that harder to do! There are people following as you go, but equally some (like me when I come to do my shed in the future) will revisit and want you look are various relevant sections. No much you can do about my other pet hate. People deliberately taking it off topic like discussing the props and cons of double nutted props in the middle of your shed build! Keep up the good work, but not too fast as we don't want a "doh" moment when finishing off the internal cladding and you can't find your phone! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 4 minutes ago, Chris Walby said: Personally I find it easier to skim through photos and text to find what I want rather than an ambling video that is off topic or contains very diverse tasks. Not that you have done it but an example would be a 45 minute video titled "base, walls, roof and ventilation" The first 5 minutes you cover everything in your last video (pointless as I had just watch that!) then really in depth on base, walls and roof and completely fail to mention ventilation or just say something like "I'll cover that later" but never title any more videos with the word ventilation making it almost impossible to find that unless all the other hours and hours of video are watched. I appreciate one can scroll or fast forward through the videos but IMO that harder to do! There are people following as you go, but equally some (like me when I come to do my shed in the future) will revisit and want you look are various relevant sections. No much you can do about my other pet hate. People deliberately taking it off topic like discussing the props and cons of double nutted props in the middle of your shed build! Keep up the good work, but not too fast as we don't want a "doh" moment when finishing off the internal cladding and you can't find your phone! Made me really laugh, Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 OK ..... more progress tonight and ....... only 3 images ...😉 Started tramping down the first side wall with the ply sheeting ..... and complete .... and the join with the front wall ..... so tomorrow ..... drill through the side wall to accomodate the vents ..... two in each side wall ..... refix the ply sheeting and then start on the back wall. the back wall has three vents being a longer wall. My electrician buddy is coming tomorrow and will start on the Dado trunking on the front wall whilst my son and I deal with the ply sheeting and vents etc. things should start going at a pace now thank goodness as it seems ages to get to this position. I won't be running through the vent installs as its been covered earlier in the post but will show the overall progress shots as usual. time for a progress discussion with my mate ..... John Smith. cheers for now toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 OK ..... coming on leaps and bounds now ..... vents fitted to one side wall and the rear wall. dado trunking is well underway ...... with the back boxes for the sockets fitted also ..... getting there .... double sockets being fitted out .... some with USB outlets ..... data cabling waiting to be run through the trunking back to the IT desk area. So .... only the partition wall and one small section of the front wall in the main workshop area to be sheeted then I can start on sheeting out the ceiling. I think that should be completed tomorrow ( the walls that is ). I still have the small domestic storage area to sheet out yet and two remaining vents to fit. That may also be completed tomorrow .... time permitting. I ran out of trunking , just being short so will have to order another 3m length to complete what is left to be done. I'll order it online tonight for delivery in time for next weekend if not before. All going to plan, the electricity will be re-connected next weekend and the shed can be operated under its own steam rather than running extension leads etc every time I work in it. Time for a beer. toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Stupid question. If your sockets and data are fitted in the trunking, why didn't you just run all the wiring in the trunking ? Ok you have sockets at low level, but you could just have dropped to them from the trunking. Is that what trunking is for? Running the cables in? Ok if the trunking was just horizontal I could understand but you have vertical trunking and would any more vertical runs make much difference? Perhaps the other walls will be trunking free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 What height is you worktop going to be, it looks as though it's going to be quite low looking at the trunking. I prefer to stand while working, maybe you prefer to sit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 (edited) The tru king is quite expensive .... circa £ 35.00 per 3m length. The other walls have very little in the way of sockets etc so spending that kind of money to service say another two sockets isn't worth it. The front wall by comparison has over a dozen sockets along it and I can move the exact location of each of them should the layout of the workshop change going forward. All the data cable is more or less in the ceiling space as most of my cameras will be ceiling mounted. The vertical drops are to accommodate the data coming from the ceiling and the various lighting circuits and their respective switches. I think part of the main reason to go the way I have done is flexibility .... but at the expense of a more expensive installation. The installation is very subjective but I think k the current method suits my needs well. Cheers PS .... it wasn't a stupid question either ....... ask away. Edited November 16 by toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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