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[iqon]

I have no idea who to pick

[John Privett]

Evening all!

 

With the Channel 4 highlights programme well underway, and the hour getting a bit late, I think we can safely publish today's results, safe in the knowledge that anybody who doesn't want to see them before the highlights finish will actually be watching them, and not surfing the 'net!

 

So here are our resuilts from Saudi Arabia today;

 

Pos	League Rank	Team	Manager	Pts
1	1 4	Essex Racing	Tony Clark	192
2	16 16	Mannschaft	Carl Brotherton	172
=	5 5	Pitts Specials	john stones	172
4	3 1	GASTON Formula	Chris McG	170
5	2 0	Iqonic racing	iqon	162
6	6 2	DMFC Racing Team	Simon Webb	143
7	11 2	Norfolk Flyers	Kevin Fairgrieve	142
8	4 3	Team Charles Picd	Charles Pic	133
9	14 0	PSS Power	Flyer	123
10	10 1	Hans Brake	Zoonie	119
=	8 2	The JP Specials	johnpflyrc	119
12	9 2	Revers Racing	Pete B	113
13	7 4	LetsGoTotoLetsGo	GrumpyGnome	112
14	15 0	Oyster f1	Glenn Philbrick	106
15	12 0	teewrex	John Tee	105
16	13 2	Torque of the devil	Stu	94

 

 

Top scorer today is Tony with an impressive 192 points.

We have a tie for second,  with Carl (Erfolg) and John S both scoring 172 points.

 

Well done to today's top three,  and a special mention for Chris, just 2 points back in 4th today with his 'blind' banker predictions!  Hope you're recovering OK from Friday's op Chris!

 

So let's see how the overall table looks after today's race;

 

Pos	League Rank	Team	Manager	Pts
1	1 4	Essex Racing	Tony Clark	360
2	2 0	Iqonic racing	iqon	346
3	3 1	GASTON Formula	Chris McG	343
4	4 3	Team Charles Picd	Charles Pic	318
5	5 5	Pitts Specials	john stones	309
6	6 2	DMFC Racing Team	Simon Webb	301
7	7 4	LetsGoTotoLetsGo	GrumpyGnome	295
8	8 2	The JP Specials	johnpflyrc	281
9	9 2	Revers Racing	Pete B	271
10	10 1	Hans Brake	Zoonie	264
11	11 2	Norfolk Flyers	Kevin Fairgrieve	246
12	12 0	teewrex	John Tee	232
13	13 2	Torque of the devil	Stu	227
14	14 0	PSS Power	Flyer	218
15	15 0	Oyster f1	Glenn Philbrick	188
16	16 16	Mannschaft	Carl Brotherton	172

 

 

Tony gains 4 places today to move up to top position.  Iqon remains unchanged in second and Chris moves up a place to third.

 

This all means that Charles slips 3 places to 4th.  Meanwhile John S moves up 5 places to fifth and Simon moves up 2 to sixth.

 

Heading downwards are the GrumpyGnome (down 4), myself and Pete B (both down 2) and Zoonie (down 1).  We now fill positions seven to ten.

 

Kev and Stu swap places, with Kev up 2 to 11th and Stu down 2 to 13th,  leaving John T unchanged in 12th.

 

Ade and Glenn are also non-movers in 14th and 15th, with Carl joining us in 16th, only 16 points adrift of 15th despite not having joined until after the first race.

 

Next up is Australia in 2 weeks time,  with qualifying and the race both starting at 6am.

 

[STOP PRESS]  It seems that Alonso's penalty has now been overturned,  so there will be changes to much of what I've written above! I'll post an update when FantasyGP reposts the results.

 

[iqon]

Yay more points....... 😁

[GrumpyGnome]

Presumably, they'll correct the results as they currently show my prediction of Alonso in third as 'wrong'...... won't make much difference I suspect!

 

Well done to those that did well; commiserations to those that didn't.

[Erfolg]

Todays paper states that Alonso has been reinstated as third.

 

I am shocked that after the promises that the FIA would not be swayed by representations by team representatives, without due consideration and review. What happens when Mercedes protests Alonso's third place.

 

I do wonder that the coverage by Mercedes with respect to Lewis, is more about maintaining coverage of the Mercedes cars than anything else. On the same subject it does seem to me that Russel is the way for the future. At this time he is out performing Lewis, has potentially a much longer  future as a driver. The drivers job (and the test drivers) is to inform the team members of what the car does and is deficient with. It is the Engineers and managements jobs to sort out the developments, with the driver in support.

[john stones 1 - Moderator]

Fun n games, cost me Alonso getting podium back, glad they did it though.

[john stones 1 - Moderator]

3 hours ago, Erfolg said:

Todays paper states that Alonso has been reinstated as third.

 

I am shocked that after the promises that the FIA would not be swayed by representations by team representatives, without due consideration and review. What happens when Mercedes protests Alonso's third place.

 

I do wonder that the coverage by Mercedes with respect to Lewis, is more about maintaining coverage of the Mercedes cars than anything else. On the same subject it does seem to me that Russel is the way for the future. At this time he is out performing Lewis, has potentially a much longer  future as a driver. The drivers job (and the test drivers) is to inform the team members of what the car does and is deficient with. It is the Engineers and managements jobs to sort out the developments, with the driver in support.

 

Lewis is nearing his forties, self evident a younger man is the future, whether that's George or another new kid on the block remains to be seen. Not a Merc fan but alongside Lewis they set some standard that'll be very very hard to match.

[iqon]

22 minutes ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said:

Fun n games, cost me Alonso getting podium back

Good 🧛‍♂️

[john stones 1 - Moderator]

4 minutes ago, iqon said:

Good 🧛‍♂️

 

Very happy with my score Igor, had DNFs and poor predictions, all considered much better than week one. Long way to go yet.

[John Tee]

Fantasygp site has me down to 14th with 97 points instead of 105. Only one way to go (I hope)

[GrumpyGnome]

8 hours ago, Erfolg said:

Todays paper states that Alonso has been reinstated as third.

 

I am shocked that after the promises that the FIA would not be swayed by representations by team representatives, without due consideration and review. What happens when Mercedes protests Alonso's third place.

 

I do wonder that the coverage by Mercedes with respect to Lewis, is more about maintaining coverage of the Mercedes cars than anything else. On the same subject it does seem to me that Russel is the way for the future. At this time he is out performing Lewis, has potentially a much longer  future as a driver. The drivers job (and the test drivers) is to inform the team members of what the car does and is deficient with. It is the Engineers and managements jobs to sort out the developments, with the driver in support.

 

Reinstatement seems fair if they can provide evidence that the Stewards haven't acted consistently. And I don't think the FIA has told teams that historical instances will not impact current decisions.  And, of course, it earns me more points 🙂

 

Russel may well be the future - time marches on after all - but if the benchmark is the driver standings, then Russel is not out-performing Hamilton.

 

Regarding development, none if us (I don't think) has access to the feedback that the drivers provide........ given the history, experience, and relationship, I'd be pretty confident that Hamilton can provide 'better' feedback to allow development, than Russel can at this point in his career. 

 

I'm not knocking Russel, I think he's one of the few drivers on the grid that seems capable of winning a WC at some point..... but I do think there is a tendency to downplay Hamilton unfairly. 

[John Privett]

Take 2!

 

So, following Alonso's reinstatement on the podium, all but one of us have gained between 3 and 16 points.  John T however has lost 8 points...  

 

Here are the revised scores from yesterday!

 

Pos	League Rank	Team	Manager	Pts
1	1 4	Essex Racing	Tony Clark	208
2	16 16	Mannschaft	Carl Brotherton	185
3	2 0	Iqonic racing	iqon	178
4	3 1	GASTON Formula	Chris McG	176
5	5 5	Pitts Specials	john stones	175
6	11 2	Norfolk Flyers	Kevin Fairgrieve	155
7	6 2	DMFC Racing Team	Simon Webb	153
8	4 3	Team Charles Picd	Charles Pic	146
9	13 1	PSS Power	Flyer	133
10	8 2	The JP Specials	johnpflyrc	132
11	10 1	Hans Brake	Zoonie	127
12	9 2	Revers Racing	Pete B	126
13	7 4	LetsGoTotoLetsGo	GrumpyGnome	125
14	15 0	Oyster f1	Glenn Philbrick	114
15	12 1	Torque of the devil	Stu	110
16	14 2	teewrex	John Tee	97

 

Tony and Carl hold on to their top two places with increased points scores.  But it's now Iqon who joins them on our podium as he gained more points from Alonso that John S did.  

 

Looking then at the overall table now;

 

os	League Rank	Team	Manager	Pts
1	1 4	Essex Racing	Tony Clark	376
2	2 0	Iqonic racing	iqon	362
3	3 1	GASTON Formula	Chris McG	349
4	4 3	Team Charles Picd	Charles Pic	331
5	5 5	Pitts Specials	john stones	312
6	6 2	DMFC Racing Team	Simon Webb	311
7	7 4	LetsGoTotoLetsGo	GrumpyGnome	308
8	8 2	The JP Specials	johnpflyrc	294
9	9 2	Revers Racing	Pete B	284
10	10 1	Hans Brake	Zoonie	272
11	11 2	Norfolk Flyers	Kevin Fairgrieve	259
12	12 1	Torque of the devil	Stu	243
13	13 1	PSS Power	Flyer	228
14	14 2	teewrex	John Tee	224
15	15 0	Oyster f1	Glenn Philbrick	196
16	16 16	Mannschaft	Carl Brotherton	185

 

Places 1 to 11 remain unchanged from yesterday, as do the final two places.

But Stu and Ade both move up a place to 12th and 13th, with John T slipping 2 places to 14th.

 

Onwards to Melbourne!

 

 

[john stones 1 - Moderator]

Thanks John.

[iqon]

I`m happy

[Simon Webb]

Thanks John.....👍😎

[John Tee]

At least I hold a record for one week.😄😄

[McG 6969]

Hi to all,

A great thanks to John P for his 'special mention'.

Predictions could have been quite a bit better hence my surprise to find myself still near the top of the field...

 

I was able to leave IC on the sunday morning enabling me to watch the GP from my room. A bit uncomfortable but still great...

Back home since this afternoon and still feeling very 'weak' but this can only get better within the days left before the Down Under-race.

 

Cheers to all

 

Chris

 

 

[john stones 1 - Moderator]

Good news on all front then Chris. 😉

[kc]

Expect to see Oscar Piastri  ( Mr Pastry! )   do well in Australia -his home country- after such a strong showing against his teammate last weekend.   A major talent who I expect to be a world champ in a few years if there is any justice.

[Erfolg]

Being new to the league I have made my predictions prior to the reminder to do so.

 

I have been surprised that much of what I have read with respect to Mercedes is pretty adamant that they will not feature this year. Given that the Aston uses both the powertrain and suspension of Mercedes. On that basis the power and suspension is pretty much sorted. That principally leaves the aero aspect. I am certain that Mercedes have measured both the Aston and the Red Bull body work accurately from various images. They probably know what body work flexibility is useful and what others are working with. I expect that they will achieve a lot quickly, not becoming another McClaren or Williams.

 

I have just finished reading a technical review of the C type (or P) Auto Union. It did surprise me that so little has changed in RC design. The suspension was stiff (read rock solid) earlier relying on chassis flexibility (ladder frame), now side wall deflections. That both the C and W125 (Mercedes) being wind tunnel designed, recognising that then front end body lift was an major issue. That the lap times were pretty close. I always thought that John Bernard came up with space allocation for the engine (as well as the electronic gearbox, safety cell etc) Auto Union did the same with the D type to improve polar inertia. Nothing changes as much as you (that is me) thinks, so it seems.

[GrumpyGnome]

I'm pretty confident that Merc know all the dimensions of all the other cars but are in a conundrum of spending time and money on the current vehicle (it has to remain relatively competitive...), or changing their aero approach.  Under the budget cap, they probably can't afford both.......

[iqon]

 

 

 

You getting up early to do your predictions, I`m not, done mine last week.

[John Privett]

OK folks...  normally I'd post my 'customary reminder' on Friday evening.  But - as indeed Iqon's post has served to remind us - both qualifying and the race are at 6 am UK time this weekend.  So first;

 

Don't forget your predictions!

 

Why not follow Iqon's example and set some "banker" predictions now?  You can always change them later if the practice sessions bring up any surprises.  OR if you're reading this on Friday morning (or afternoon!) then P1 and P2 will have already taken place.  

 

I'm going to do my predictions now...

 

[GrumpyGnome]

Not that helps much, but I always do a 'banker' predictions as soon as possible after the previous race................... just in case I

 

 

 

 

 

forget!

[Zflyer]

I have put it all on RED 5 

I assume we are all of an age and know what I am on about...