Glenn Philbrick Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Quite an interesting year of racing, often with varied results apart from Verstappen dominance. Let's hope Ferrari and Mercedes can catch up in the winter. Thanks John for your work in running the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Cheers John, added interest in what was, fir me, a pretty unengaging season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clark Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Many thanks John and congratulations to Iqon and Chris. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tee Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Interesting in the sport section of the Mail today. Verstappen won the race, Hamilton unfortunately didn't finish. Including the article headline Max got his name mentioned four time Lewis thirteen. Are the Mail biased or am I? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Of course it's biased - he's a brit as are most of the readers......... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) There has been suggestions of bias within F1 previously, from the inconsistent penalties in respect to racing incidents. In the past the allegation would be that Ferrari received favourable treatment. There is also a fair degree of hypocrisy, from the McLaren Ferrari spying, Mercedes with their variable steering, flexibles wings, floors and prostrations of innocence and now you are changing the rules. Or Mercedes requesting a rule change this year to handicap other teams, the refusing requests to ease rules with respect engine modifications, chasing Red Bull through the legal courts to restrict ex-Mercedes engine designer. When you go back and think of fan cars, moving skirts, nothing has changed. I wonder is any one free to throw stones at glass houses? I strongly suspect that Lewis's time is either over or coming close to its end, he has had some luck, in addition to talent. His team mate is probably the way of the future. Drivers almost certainly as talented such as Alonso, Vettel, Button have struggled with clearly inferior cars. Both Verstappen and Vettel have manged to extract much more than their team mates from the same nominal car, not requiring having an outstanding vehicle. I am interested who had which drivers, any one have Verstappen. Or are the predictions the deciding factor. Or were both contingent on sucess. Edited December 1, 2022 by Erfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 My team. Red Bull, Ferrari, Williams. Le Clerc, Magnussen, Tsunoda. Had a lot of DNFs this time plus ferrari self harming. Predictions, I would think we all struggled this year. Bonus points a rarity for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clark Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Here's mine. Red Bull, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo. Russell, Gasly, Magnussen No changes through the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) "winning team" Red bull, Ferrari, Alfa romeo Leclerc, Bottas, Magnussen Changed to - Leclerc, Norris, Magnussen Predictions - not great but suspect thats what makes "the" difference. Edited December 1, 2022 by iqon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 The Belgian 'Poulidor' team... Red Bull - Ferrari - Alfa Romeo Leclerc - Alonso - Magnussen 1x change (at mid-season) replaced Alpha Tauri by Alfa Romeo A lot of DNF's (ask Fernando or Magnussen's 'meatballs' !) unfortunately. 'Lousy' predictions on my side as well. But I musn't be the only one... Quite funny to have nearly (5 out of 6) the same team as Igor. 🏁 Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tee Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Leclerc , Bottas, Ricciardo Williams, Mclaren, Ferrarri No changes. Two missed / lost predictions affecting results. Started well and slowly went downhill john Edited December 1, 2022 by John Tee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Erfolg said: There has been suggestions of bias within F1 previously, from the inconsistent penalties in respect to racing incidents. In the past the allegation would be that Ferrari received favourable treatment. There is also a fair degree of hypocrisy, from the McLaren Ferrari spying, Mercedes with their variable steering, flexibles wings, floors and prostrations of innocence and now you are changing the rules. Or Mercedes requesting a rule change this year to handicap other teams, the refusing requests to ease rules with respect engine modifications, chasing Red Bull through the legal courts to restrict ex-Mercedes engine designer. When you go back and think of fan cars, moving skirts, nothing has changed. I wonder is any one free to throw stones at glass houses? I strongly suspect that Lewis's time is either over or coming close to its end, he has had some luck, in addition to talent. His team mate is probably the way of the future. Drivers almost certainly as talented such as Alonso, Vettel, Button have struggled with clearly inferior cars. Both Verstappen and Vettel have manged to extract much more than their team mates from the same nominal car, not requiring having an outstanding vehicle. I am interested who had which drivers, any one have Verstappen. Or are the predictions the deciding factor. Or were both contingent on sucess. Like everyone, they push the boundaries as far as they can. Little change there. Ferrari, as far as I know, have a different funding structure to all the other teams. Re Hamilton, everyone needs a little luck.... I reckon he'll do next year, and then call it quits, unless he has a competitive car allowing him to break Schumacker's title record. Alonso nearly as talented as Hamilon (outscored by his rookie team mate) but hampered by poor career choices. Not convinced re Button tbh. The whole Red Bull setup seems to be geared around their #1 diver - if there is a challenge, the management remove it (Danny Ric, Webber) which explains Vestappen and Vettel. Yes, SV outscores Lance, but would LS be here if daddy didn't own the team ? It's all subjective but to be a multiple champion, I think you need skill, a good car, a good team, and a little luck. YMMV! My team: Russell, Alonso, Shumacker (had Gasly for a while); Mercedes, Alpine, McLaren. Predictions ranged from great to appalling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 With respect to Hamilton and Button Is Button better than Hamilton? Button was certainly not "murdered" by Hamilton during their three years together, which turned out to be by far the most interesting and tight team-mate duel of his career. Hamilton "won" two seasons, Button the other. In 2010, Button won two races to Hamilton's three, losing out in the championship by 240 points to 214. It was a fair reflection of a year in which the 2008 champion was quicker. 2011 saw their fortunes reversed, as Button drove the best season of his career. The qualifying table still showed Hamilton significantly ahead, but Jenson saved his best for when it mattered. He scored 12 podiums including three race wins; inconsistent Hamilton also won three times, but only scored half as many podiums. Their points tallies at the end of the year were 270 for Button and 227 for Hamilton. But in 2012, the form book was flipped again. In response to Button's magnificent 2011, Hamilton drove one of his own best seasons; the points gap at the end was just two points in Hamilton's favour, but the "real" gap was greater. Overall, Button scored more points over the three seasons, scored more podiums and had more points finishes. Hamilton had more poles, more wins and finished ahead more often. . At the end of the day, with similar cars, Hamilton is a really good driver. The outstanding drivers win consistently with good cars, that are in the hunt. On that basis the exceptional drivers have been the Clarks, Stewart, Vettel, and now I suspect Verstappen. I tend to think that Schumacher, actively developed the cars to ensure outstanding performance, I then remember that Irvine threw a potential world championship away, by being an apparent playboy, with the same car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Team done, need more money at this rate my drivers will be pushing the cars round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Hi to all, I have to undergo a surgery next wednesday and need to be in hospital on tuesday. I'll very probably miss the testdays in Bahrain but would like to get my team/predictions ready for the first race. Therefore, could our 'admin' activate our League and provide us with the necessary entry code. Really hoping John P will be reading my request... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Mine done - mid table mediocrity beckons...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Webb Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Has it been activated now? How can people do anything if it hasn't been activated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 You can pick on fantasygp now....... hopefully when the league is activated, it'll just pick the new teams up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 No, reading waiting for manager to activate. But you can click rejoin the league, bottom of screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Webb Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: No, reading waiting for manager to activate. But you can click rejoin the league, bottom of screen. In that case I am confused... ...mine says "Waiting for manager to activate".... and the button next to it says "leave" No button at the bottom of the screen for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Mine only says leave now I've clicked rejoin, you already rejoined n forgot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Or maybe you have to pick a team to get rejoin option, I picked a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Webb Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Probably... ...I don't remember it being this complicated in previous years! So it sounds as if we are both in the same status.....ie as discussed "Waiting for manager to activate" OK.....as long as I am in! (or will be) (Team now picked) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Join the que. ( Hope all goes well Chris. ) Modelflying Forumites - Waiting for Manager to activat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, iqon said: ( Hope all goes well Chris ) Thanks for your concern, Igor. As it is a heart surgery, I just have to hope as well... Looking forward to John P activating our League again. Cheers Chris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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