Gary Manuel Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Here's a bit more info: Diesel is sometimes called 35-second oil, whereas heating oil is called 28-second oil. This is a measure of it's viscosity. The number of seconds is based upon how long it takes 50ml to drip through a certain sized hole into a container. Diesel is therefore more viscous and less volatile (harder to ignite and burns at a lower temperature). Edited By Gary Manuel on 17/11/2020 14:19:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Here's the authoritive answer for anyone who wants to read up a bit more. The same company also sell heating oil in a 32-second variant which is somewhere between diesel and kerosene. It follows that it's important to know the "second" rating of the fuel you are buying because different companies / countries use different terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks for the reply Gary . When price goes up will have to get my son to siphon a few liters from his home tank every now and again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad taggart Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I use heating oil all the time. No problems and as stated above burns cleaner and is less expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I have a friend who uses Jet 1 in his heater (modified). He services helicopters and they have to drain the fuel every time, but not allowed to put it back in. It therefore has to be "disposed of". It gets quite warm in his workshop. Unfortunately our strip is too short to fly jets off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Posted by kevin b on 17/11/2020 18:21:21: I have a friend who uses Jet 1 in his heater (modified). He services helicopters and they have to drain the fuel every time, but not allowed to put it back in. It therefore has to be "disposed of". It gets quite warm in his workshop. Unfortunately our strip is too short to fly jets off. What sort of mods? I understood that kerosene (which is what Jet A-1 is) was a "normal" (and cleaner burning) alternative fuel for these heaters, although I haven't tried it. Edited By Martin Harris on 18/11/2020 01:03:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Posted by Martin Harris on 18/11/2020 01:02:30: Posted by kevin b on 17/11/2020 18:21:21: I have a friend who uses Jet 1 in his heater (modified). He services helicopters and they have to drain the fuel every time, but not allowed to put it back in. It therefore has to be "disposed of". It gets quite warm in his workshop. Unfortunately our strip is too short to fly jets off. What sort of mods? I understood that kerosene (which is what Jet A-1 is) was a "normal" (and cleaner burning) alternative fuel for these heaters, although I haven't tried it. Edited By Martin Harris on 18/11/2020 01:03:26 I think his heater was originally set up for oil. It is quite a large workshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Still looking for a UK supplier preferably on ebay for a 5kw unit. So can any one recommend a company to use. Most of the listing say they are in the UK but the business address is the far east. Not particularly happy with getting a unit shipped into the UK at the moment given the issues with Covid and leaving the EU so want to use a UK supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Mine came from a place supposedly in Walsall but was clearly shipped from China and arrived in a dreadful state due to inadequate packing, but got it for free in the end and I made good the damage. It did not have a remote but that is not a problem. I think that you just need to take a chance on these. Make sure that you order a baffled silencer as well, although the noise, once settled down to temperature, is very little. Would not be without it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I'm hoping Santa brings me one of these to warm up my workshop. I don't think it would be long before I had to take off my Xmas jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Well surprised the mods allowed that post Kevin. However assume we all like a good looking model. Afraid my build standards is never that good, so will not be winning the model of the year competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Posted by Martin McIntosh on 22/12/2020 18:03:21: Mine came from a place supposedly in Walsall but was clearly shipped from China and arrived in a dreadful state due to inadequate packing, but got it for free in the end and I made good the damage. It did not have a remote but that is not a problem. I think that you just need to take a chance on these. Make sure that you order a baffled silencer as well, although the noise, once settled down to temperature, is very little. Would not be without it now. Martin, was it tuningurvehicles that you used as note they say they reside in Walsall (not)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Sorry, cannot remember but the name does not ring a bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Found a UK supplier for the 5Kw heater with delivery in 3 days on ebay for £77, so quite pleased. Can provide details for anyone else looking for one. No silencer was provided, so you need to spend a further £8.50 but have yet to receive that item so cant vouch for its quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Do you have a pic of one? If not then please tell me the supplier,just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Walsh Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Posted by kevin b on 22/12/2020 18:17:52: I'm hoping Santa brings me one of these to warm up my workshop. I don't think it would be long before I had to take off my Xmas jumper. That model doesn't run on paraffin, requires vodka or gin to get it lit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightflyer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I have to admit I have a 2.5kW convection heater and a 3 kW oil filled radiator. The first is good for getting some instant heat but the other is great once warmed up and is of course far safer should any noxious or flammable substances be in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Shaun. Are you doubting your own abilities ? Needless to say Santa let me down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Posted by Martin McIntosh on 31/12/2020 17:49:43: Do you have a pic of one? If not then please tell me the supplier,just curious. Will ping you a PM with details. Notice item is now priced at £99. Confirmed the package was missing the silencer and remote control. However this should not be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Heater works but the muffler was a cheap straight through type, so need to find a supplier of the correct type. Any links to an ebay supplier appreciated as the majority I can see are the cheap clones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Advice needed. I have read through this thread and am interested in getting a heater for my workshop which is a well insulated precast concrete garage(no garage door, just normal side door).around 17'x10' It seems that they are not stock items so looking aroundI came across Planar heaters and spoke with the stockiest. It seems that they feel their heaters would be unsuitable for the job in hand, that they would not be powerful enough It was a 4kw version. Is there a chinese one that will do the job. Edited By Graham R on 04/01/2021 22:32:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I have a Chinese 5kW one with integral 5l tank. My shed is 5x3 x2.5m apex so about 34 cu.m. The heater is fine normally but in extreme cold needs a small oil filled rad. to get the shed up to temp. quickly so I would say that in your case a 4kW would be insufficient. 5l of fuel lasts a good three full days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks Martin. I am currently using a 2kw oil filed radiator. It does warm up by w/shop but it takes a couple of hours. I have found some 8kw heaters on eBay, do you think they may do the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad taggart Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 They are all the same / identical regardless of rating apparently - just marketed - with different KW. I have "5KW " and used to use a 2kw oil heater which took more than a few hours to really warm things up, but the diesel heater is 3-4 times quicker. They like to be run hard as this keeps them clean. I run mine on kerosene, as I have it to hand for the main boiler of the house ... The "8kw" diesel heater will blow your existing oil heater away ; when it is really cold I can barely notice that my 2kw oil heater is on even when stood nearby - the same can't be said for the "5KW" diesel heater - when on full it really blasts the heat out and you can feel the difference even at the other end of a 4 metre shed ! Don't think you will be disappointed providing you set it up right and have good access to a ready supply of fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Thank you. My w/s is a std garage. the walls are insulated with 50mm celutex then plasterboard. the apex roof has been insulated with the modern 1" thick foam that they use on modern floors prior to flooring and then clad in upvc cladding. My only problem is exiting the exhaust. I could try drilling through the foam and the precast concrete or filling in one of the small chest height windows with wood or something else. Any help would really be appreciated as I would like to get back into the w/s to do some building during this lockdown period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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