Dad_flyer Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 A person would be maybe 16-18" across the shoulders. So that is 3 1/4" to 3 1/2" ish at 1/5 and for two people the cockpit would need to be 7" wide. What does your guy measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 What I did was check the cockpit width was 1/5 which it is, (170mm internal) then divided the width in half, Chris printed a pilot to fit that width, so the two occupants would just touch shoulders. But at that size, the figure is way too small. Trouble is these prints take many many hours to print. I am sure we will get there. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Danny Fenton said: Thanks Colin, that's the sort of info I need. Unfortunately the STL file gives multipliers for the scale you need. This should be 1/5th But it clearly is too big. Cheers Danny I had a similar problem with one of Max’s pilots, when I printed it using his rescaling figures it came out too big. Using my slicing software I am able to adjust, by % or measurement, each of the XYZ axis which is what I did to get the correct, for me, size. I know that I also used different scaling for the body to that for the head! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Dwain Dibley. said: Dwain, that looks like some kind of tape that is used at the junction of the canopy 'Glass' and the fuse. can you please enlighten me .Added after painting/covering. Do you leave it as it is? Or paint it. Thanks. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It's aluclad, cut into strips and painted to look like framework, and the outline of the door too. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Dwain, whats Aluclad? (Sorry) Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Sticky aluminium sheet, on a roll . Steve Webbs has it. Or did have . D.D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chantler Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Is that similar to this aluminium insulation tape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 I have used three types of aluminium foil, Halfords ducting tape, (adhesive alloy foil). Mick reeves Metalcoat, (thicker) But the best of the bunch is Ed Stephens Flite Metal. Trouble is it is hard to get over here. Cheers Danny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 many thanks Dwain, once again. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Interested in you comments on the metal coatings Danny. I will have the cowl of my Fury to cover in some aluminium type foil and spoke to Phil about Flite Metal. He told me that it isn’t that good at being worked around compound curves. So I contacted Jim Reeves and enquired about their Metalcoat. He told me it can be worked fairly easily around gentle compound curves as per the Fury cowl. How strong is the adhesive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Lol Not sure I agree with Phil on that one. The Reeves tape was hard to apply smoothly. I did a video if you can't sleep ? Video number 1 Video number 2 Video number 3 However what you want to shape may be too much for foil, and you may have to use aneeled litho plate, in sections. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 That's better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Somerville Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 That looks great Danny. Think I will get some Metalcoat for the Fury cowl having seen how you sanded down the joins. Some v cuts to help bring it in and around could work nicely. Flite metal looks good but the cost of shipping small items from the States is horrible. I contacted VicRC who makes a nice grp canopy frame for my Fury. Frame $37 shipping $57 ?. Pity but will have to make my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nick Somerville said: That looks great Danny. Think I will get some Metalcoat for the Fury cowl having seen how you sanded down the joins. Some v cuts to help bring it in and around could work nicely. Flite metal looks good but the cost of shipping small items from the States is horrible. I contacted VicRC who makes a nice grp canopy frame for my Fury. Frame $37 shipping $57 ?. Pity but will have to make my own. I bought a full spitty cockpit kit from Vic and as you say the shipping was lots more than the parts ? Edited May 21, 2021 by Danny Fenton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) I’ve used THIS firm. Excellent stuff Edited May 21, 2021 by cymaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Chandrayan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Now! You Gent's don't get me started on the shipping costs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, cymaz said: I’ve used THIS firm. Excellent stuff I used them before they were called that ? The 3d printed stuff I got from Chad before 3d became a "thing" got to be 12 years ago, cost a fortune + shipping! I know Phil Clark was having words with Ed, but don't think it came to anything. Almost worth a trip to the States just to get "stuff" Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just a thought, maybe clubs in the States and here could have some kind of shipping arrangement at cost. Just a thought...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Cymaz I think postage and tax are the same no matter who sends it, though I might be mistaken..... Friend Chris printed another pilot for me over the last few days, this time we used Ron's suggestion of altering x,y,z in different amounts. If you look at the pilot as drawn he is built like a Russian weightlifter. So we took the 1/6 figure and stretched him in x and y (I think it was) by 117 percent, but left the width z at 100 percent. This produced a much leaner chappie. We miscalculated the amount of back side to lose, so he needs to be lowered in the seat a little, but otherwise he is good to go I reckon ? Thanks Chris and Ron, we got there in the end. This is possibly the last post until Autumn, as work has me in Italy for a while. Keep the faith and see you soon. Cheers Danny Edited May 25, 2021 by Danny Fenton 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Well done Danny. See you in the fall then Matey. Ciao. D.D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Bit porky in the rear end eh, sounds like folk I know. Take care Danny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 Thanks Chaps, I have taken a sabbatical from the column too, hopefully KC will mention it in the mag. Ciao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyP Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Now that is the shape of a proper pilot, not like the ones you see with ramrod straight backs ?. Looking forward to you completing the project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Of course you’ll fit a beer glass in his right hand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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