Richard Harris Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 20/11/2023 at 16:26, Ron Gray said: Forgot to post this last week which was when it had its maiden flight. The asymmetric thrust is interesting! Â That looks interesting Ron, any flight videos available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 50 inch span Depron JU87. All covered in 50gram grp cloth and west system epoxy. Scratch build from scaled up 3 view on Wikipedia, and lots of photos. Started out in white winter camo, didn't like it, so changed to two-tone green camo. Didn't like that so added desert camo which I quite like. 1300 grams flying weight. 35/36 900 kv motor.2200 3cell lipo. 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Brilliant Michael, superb looking model, any build pictures you can share or more info on the structure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, martin collins 1 said: Brilliant Michael, superb looking model, any build pictures you can share or more info on the structure? Sorry I don't do build photos Martin, I am always too absorbed with the construction. It's all 6mm Depron. The wing is built in a jig ( it's not folded but built up,) and has just one 2mm ply rib with a small block of hardwood to take the 2.5mm wheel strut. It's covered in one layer of 50 gram cloth with two layers at the wing joints. I think it might be called a stressed wing construction, and it makes very strong wings. All of my builds utilize this method, and II was at one time thinking of doing a video on YouTube but when Depron was discontinued there didn't seem much point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Nice build Mike, have you tried BandQ depron look alike? my 109 is clad with the 3mm and the ribs are 6mm. I have been using foamboard for the basic construction leaving the paper on but the next build I will just use depron with balsa for support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Great build Michael. Another foamboard winner! Â Graham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 21 hours ago, Eric Robson said: Nice build Mike, have you tried BandQ depron look alike? my 109 is clad with the 3mm and the ribs are 6mm. I have been using foamboard for the basic construction leaving the paper on but the next build I will just use depron with balsa for support.  I haven't tried it Eric, but will probably do so. Thing is I still have 10 full sheets of 6 mm depron which suits my method of ribless construction. Guess when I eventually run out, I will try it. Does B&Q look alike take grp cloth and epoxy covering? I do like to cover my models. I have seen it, and it seems very pliable, whereas the original stuff is rigid, which again suits my construction system. But that's the nice thing about foam, there is lots to experiment with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Ready for a test flight following conversion to Electric, i will wait to Spring when my fingers are warmer, i won`t risk this model to cold slow fingers on the sticks! 1/4 Scale Henry Haffke plan built GeeBee Model E, i bought it 7 years ago as a bare airframe which had been flown on glow, it has been a Hanger Queen since then and i had intended not to fly it as it is so nice but it has only been assembled up once since i bought it. So i came to the decision a couple of weeks ago to convert it to 6s Electric and fly it, hopefully if it does fly nicely i will get to see it assembled up a bit more often! Motor is an E-Flite Power 60 with a 16x10 APC E prop. Weight is just over 10 lbs and it is producing 1428 Watts, just over 140 Watts per lb, should fly well on this set up with plenty of wing area. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Bullit Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 26/11/2023 at 17:13, Paul Marsh said: Welcome to the P68 club. You'll love it, such a great flier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael Barclay said:  I haven't tried it Eric, but will probably do so. Thing is I still have 10 full sheets of 6 mm depron which suits my method of ribless construction. Guess when I eventually run out, I will try it. Does B&Q look alike take grp cloth and epoxy covering? I do like to cover my models. I have seen it, and it seems very pliable, whereas the original stuff is rigid, which again suits my construction system. But that's the nice thing about foam, there is lots to experiment with. Hi Mike, I must try glass cloth as the pva and brown paper doesn't work so good with B and Q depron. I had some adhesion problems covering the 109f. Foamboard is more like depron once the paper is removed but getting it off is a faff. Sarik are advertising genuine depron but I am not sure if it is. What is your next project?  2 hours ago, Michael Barclay said:  I haven't tried it Eric, but will probably do so. Thing is I still have 10 full sheets of 6 mm depron which suits my method of ribless construction. Guess when I eventually run out, I will try it. Does B&Q look alike take grp cloth and epoxy covering? I do like to cover my models. I have seen it, and it seems very pliable, whereas the original stuff is rigid, which again suits my construction system. But that's the nice thing about foam, there is lots to experiment with.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 27/11/2023 at 19:00, Michael Barclay said: Sorry I don't do build photos Martin, I am always too absorbed with the construction. It's all 6mm Depron. The wing is built in a jig ( it's not folded but built up,) and has just one 2mm ply rib with a small block of hardwood to take the 2.5mm wheel strut. It's covered in one layer of 50 gram cloth with two layers at the wing joints. I think it might be called a stressed wing construction, and it makes very strong wings. All of my builds utilize this method, and II was at one time thinking of doing a video on YouTube but when Depron was discontinued there didn't seem much point. I assume you don’t use a spar, just the skin to take the loads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Barclay said: Does B&Q look alike take grp cloth and epoxy covering? I do like to cover my models. I have seen it, and it seems very pliable, whereas the original stuff is rigid, which again suits my construction system. But that's the nice thing about foam, there is lots to experiment with. Hi Michael,  Yes it does! Well, it takes glass cloth and EZkote, or now B&Q water based varnish. I'm in the middle of a 1/6th scale Mk1 spitfire build and have glass clothed the wings and tailplane so far. Certainly better than brown paper/ PVA and much easier to apply to foam.  Mixture of black 6mm and white 3mm...  Graham  3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Don Fry said: I assume you don’t use a spar, just the skin to take the loads? I use a 6mm depron spar but only as a spacer between upper and lower surface of wings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Graham Davies 3 said: Hi Michael,  Yes it does! Well, it takes glass cloth and EZkote, or now B&Q water based varnish. I'm in the middle of a 1/6th scale Mk1 spitfire build and have glass clothed the wings and tailplane so far. Certainly better than brown paper/ PVA and much easier to apply to foam.  Mixture of black 6mm and white 3mm...  Graham  The 3 mm looks good and easier to bend for complex shapes but I wonder if the weight saving is lost on the extra framework needed to keep it rigid. I will get some and try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 15 hours ago, Eric Robson said: Hi Mike, I must try glass cloth as the pva and brown paper doesn't work so good with B and Q depron. I had some adhesion problems covering the 109f. Foamboard is more like depron once the paper is removed but getting it off is a faff. Sarik are advertising genuine depron but I am not sure if it is. What is your next project?   My next build will possibly be the Grumman Duck, But it might be a while before I get on with it, as I am thinking of moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, Michael Barclay said: My next build will possibly be the Grumman Duck, But it might be a while before I get on with it, as I am thinking of moving. Nice choice, there was a modeler from Austria made one in the 1980's and covered it with litho plate reproducing ever panel and rivet. John Scrivener I think was his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 Finished a Precedent Fly Boy off. Had a box, plan and 2 years ago, someone gave me parts to build the Hifly glider and also a fuselage, tail for a Fly Boy, but no wings. Easy wings to make, so clear the workshop and at least build it. Now finished and has a Thunder Tiger .20, as a .15 might be bit under powered, and in the picture shows the same engine/exhaust. Finished the same colour scheme as the Hifly, if I had built it originally in the day. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I couldn't resist buying one of these, at the price it's just excellent value for money   Unfortunately it had to be given a thorough inspection (please hurry up with the FW190 @RICHARD WILLS)    3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Has he found any loose servos or dodgy undercarriage legs Ron? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: I couldn't resist buying one of these, at the price it's just excellent value for money   Unfortunately it had to be given a thorough inspection (please hurry up with the FW190 @RICHARD WILLS)     Forgive my ignorance but what is it and where's it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Seemingly he has been trawling this very forum and as a result had been looking for any excuse to send it back. He said he’s been in contact with Sue Perkins who said she’ll have a word with her brother John if it becomes necessary 😲 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Geoff S said:  Forgive my ignorance but what is it and where's it from? XFly P68 I got mine from Wheelspin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futura57 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Nothing to get too excited about. I came across an old HobbyKing Teksumo EPP flying wing kit in my shed recently. Must be around 10 years old from the days of no VAT 😉 My first thought was to sell it at our club's bring and buy session at last week's AGM. I mentioned it to a friend who convinced me to keep it and put it together. So here it is, with just the tip fins to be added. I had a spare 2826 2200KV brushless motor kicking around, but only a 25A ESC. With a 6x4 prop that should do for starters. Moving forward I propose a hot 4S setup with a 40A ESC and prop to suit. My first flying wing as it turns out.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Fairgrieve Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I love my Teksumo. Â Â Â Â Since rebuilt and flown again. And unlike you I still have a boxed one the bench. Sitting next to its smaller brother the Bonsai. They are a real fun model to fly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futura57 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, Kevin Fairgrieve said: I love my Teksumo. Â Â Â Â Since rebuilt and flown again. And unlike you I still have a boxed one the bench. Sitting next to its smaller brother the Bonsai. They are a real fun model to fly. What's your power setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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