Cuban8 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 16/10/2020 10:29:25: Posted by Cuban8 on 16/10/2020 10:18:39: Having seen this thread this morning I thought I'd better get my act together and log on to the Go Membership site and reacquaint myself with all the fun before (virtual) AGM season, club membership renewals and BMFA membership payments. Firstly, mine and the majority of our club's members' £9 CAAs that I processed with last years subs via the BMFA portal are due to expire on 21st February 2021, a few late joiners I put through mid season with corresponding CAA expiry dates later in 2021. So I suppose for 2021, I'll leave CAA to the individual members to renew themselves as they'll need their BMFA as of 1st January. Unless I've missed or misunderstood something? Might be worth watching this **LINK** May be something useful there. Answer re my CAA question can be found at 1:13:00 and from the last few minutes of the video. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Posted by Jason-I on 16/10/2020 12:11:50: No need to renew here. I took the stupid test last year to 'prove' I am competent, but I have not and will not pay the unjust 'toy airplane tax'. Cancelled my BMFA membership last year too as I didnt feel I got any benefit from continued membership..... RC model aircraft (of all types) can be considered "toys" in much the same way as motor bikes and jet skis. All of which have the potential to cause damage or personal injury. Following on from the drone incidents, the government realised that there was no legislation in place to protect anyone from these "flying toys". There now is and thanks to the efforts of the (unbeneficial) BMFA it is not as onerous as it could have been. Those of us with average intelligence realised some time ago that the purpose of the test was not to prove our competence, but to show that we were aware of the rules and had at least read them. Thus showing culapability, should an occurrence arise and ignorance of the law cannot be used in defence. Can we leave this old chestnut now please and stick to the thread. It seems to me that there is going to be a lot of confusion regarding renewals this year. I think sooner or later it might settle down, but my suggestion would be for anybody involved in the model aircraft hobby to register through the BMFA and anyone wanting to fly for commercial, or other purposes to register through the CAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 No confusion here, pay it with my BMFA, sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 It is perhaps also worth noting that commercial drone accidents are now included in the AAIB monthly accident reports which may have curbed some of the "I can make some money doing this" aspirations. It is perhaps also worth noting that the AAIB have expressed concern, but with no recommendations so far, at the potential consequences of an uncontrolled descent of even a 5 kg object in any sort of public place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Wood 4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hi All, That was really the point I tried to express earlier in this thread, and being a Law Abiding BMFA member of many years and doing the test ( to be covered by the insurance ) as I'm more a lone flyer these days, I'm with Jason on this one !! not much talk of Drones near airports as there is much less air traffic to disrupt Could be saving £41.00 next year ? Regards Ray Edited By Ray Wood 4 on 16/10/2020 14:41:06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Crosby Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'm sorry that I seem to have created an ordure storm. Today I received a nice informative and apologetic email from the CAA Drone Team. the had an IT snag which they have fixed. I retried my registration renewal and it went seamlessly. I keep my present OPR number until November next year. Now with the excellent weather forecast for this weekend on the peninsula I'll be flying everything I own....... hopefully. P.S. I will most definitely be staying with the BMFA whom have worked so tirelessly for us all dealing with this governmental knee-jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 15/10/2020 21:51:47: Posted by Dane Crosby on 15/10/2020 20:50:13: I thought that I would obtain my new Operator number today as I will be flying on Saturday. I have now stuck my old number on to the machine but will no doubt have to peel it off and stick on a new one. This is due to information I have heard that the CAA may well change our operator numbers upon renewal. Ho Hum............... If you renew before 1st Jan your number will stay the same for 1 more year, if your renew after 1st Jan it will be in the new format which will then be permanent. Sigh. I don't suppose there was any explanation from the Campaign Against Aviation as to why they will change the ruddy format, was there, Andy? Edited By John Bisset on 16/10/2020 16:02:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sigh. I don't suppose there was any explanation from the Campaign Against Aviation as to why they will change the ruddy format, was there, Andy? Edited By John Bisset on 16/10/2020 16:02:10 After 1st Jan we are adopting the EASA format.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 16/10/2020 16:12:06: Sigh. I don't suppose there was any explanation from the Campaign Against Aviation as to why they will change the ruddy format, was there, Andy? Edited By John Bisset on 16/10/2020 16:02:10 After 1st Jan we are adopting the EASA format.. ...though we may or may not be in EASA at that point, who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Christy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Perhaps for the reasons mentioned above? -- Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Crosby Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 The drone team suffered a glitch with the web site. It is now fixed registering was instantaneous and easy. No need to avoid using the procedure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Posted by Peter Christy on 16/10/2020 17:43:59: Perhaps for the reasons mentioned above? -- Pete ^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bisset Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 "After 1st Jan we are adopting the EASA format.." Thanks Andy. With all the rest of the nonsense(s) going on I'd forgotten about EASA ! John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 While I don't claim any specialist knowledge, it appears to me that the default position is that all EASA law/regulations will become UK law/regulations on the 1/1/2021 so the EASA format will be continued. Therefore, both Andy and Steve may well be correct! Edited By Martin Harris on 16/10/2020 23:01:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Confused - are you confirming what I wrote or disagreeing with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart C Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 What is this new EASA format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Posted by Stuart C on 17/10/2020 15:58:53: What is this new EASA format? Does it involve chocolate eggs and rabbits ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 More like white elephants and red herrings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Hodson 2 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I have just tried to renew my registration. There appears to be no mechanism for renewal without taking the test again! I thought that the test was valid for three years?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 From memory you just enter your dob and your email addy, they send you a code and you renew, at least that’s what happened when I did it last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Am I right in thinking that if you are a Bmfa member and have an A test pass for powered flight, you are covered ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Posted by Rich Griff on 30/12/2020 14:45:43: Am I right in thinking that if you are a Bmfa member and have an A test pass for powered flight, you are covered ? You are "covered" as far as competency is concerned, but you still need to register annually with the CAA. You can do the CAA registration via your BMFA membership, or direct with the CAA. All explained by the BMFA here. Dick Edited By Dickw on 30/12/2020 15:43:57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just renewed my Bmfa, seems my CAA reg is valid till july. ??? D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Crook Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Mine was valid until February I think, but I just renewed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Was this through the BMFA? There was a mass registration in February after the BMFA (and probably the other organisations?) was granted temporary exemptions for its members while systems were being set up. We paid the fee with our renewals from December - not sure whether the Feruary date will be repeated this year...Andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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