RICHARD WILLS Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 You're right about the sharp tools. I made the prototype Fw190 with plastic picnic cutlery .😬 I'm not allowed out on my own either . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, RICHARD WILLS said: You're right about the sharp tools. I made the prototype Fw190 with plastic picnic cutlery .😬 I'm not allowed out on my own either . So the prototype FW190 was a Baker Bird, rather than a Butcher Bird? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 What about the candlestick maker or is that confusing for you young ones 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Philbrick Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Hi Richard. You've forced me to complete my la 7 to make bench room for the Tempest now that I can see progress is being made. I'm not sure about the yellow spinner but it will do for the test flight when the weather is better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 You gents that are receiving your FW 190s, can start your own threads in the 2024 mass build section, it is not a single thread, you can have as many as is required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 You could also start specific threads on power units, or any other threads that help the group find info easy rather than looking through long blogs, general chat thread maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I would like to see a separate thread for each individual build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Bowers Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 hours ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: You gents that are receiving your FW 190s, can start your own threads in the 2024 mass build section, it is not a single thread, you can have as many as is required. Mine is started in "Warbird kits". Please feel free to move it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson 4 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Progress... Ensuring the canopy will fit. still a LOT of work to do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Hi all, I have added "A pair of FW 190's" on the 2024 mass build thread have the first question that has probably already been asked? What servos have been suggested as I have no preference to make or model, just what fits best the Fw190? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chris Walby said: Hi all, I have added "A pair of FW 190's" on the 2024 mass build thread have the first question that has probably already been asked? What servos have been suggested as I have no preference to make or model, just what fits best the Fw190? Pretty much anything you have will do as there is no real issue with weight . I used 9g metal geared throughout , just cheap emax jobs about £6 each . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-H Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I’ve been watching with interest and am keen on the idea of ordering a Tempest. It would my first warbird and I’m keen to try out some of these build & finishing ideas, but I have a couple of questions . If the plane is built as intended, ie for hand launch& without any undercarriage, is the protruding cowl susceptible to damage on landing ? Also, is there a knack to landing in a way that avoids regularly breaking the prop ? Sorry for possibly asking daft questions but I’ve no experience at belly landing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD WILLS Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Not a daft question at al Andy . Many of us "old timers " flew funfighters when we first got into scale modelling . Being smaller and having thinner wings, they came in pretty fast . However , they are pretty smooth so you can flair out the model as it gets close to the ground and hold the nose up till it loses all of its energy . Rarely dod we brake props as they generally moved out of the way , being two blade . The Tempest is quite a bit bigger and so has much lighter wing loading . The wing section is also designed to work well at low speed which means that hand launch and landings will be very easy . The other advantage with electric motors is that you can use the "brake " feature on the speed controller so that you stop the prop in a horizontal position. Personally Ive never bothered and rarely break a prop . Both the Tempest and Fw190 have a solid wooden block inside the lowest point of the cowl . The block is secured to two main formers and reaches right forward to the front of the cowl lip . That block will support the cowl from any bumps . The Tempest chin does look vulnerable but when you consider that every radial engine fighter would have a similarly exposed cowl chin and the fact that the models land very nose up , this isnt a problem . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-H Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Thanks Richard, that’s all very encouraging. Go on, it’s Christmas so I’ll have one. The FW190 looked good but I just think the Tempest is a striking looking plane and it will be fun to have something a bit different. I’ll drop you a PM with my details. Thanks again for your help. Andy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 The low wing load IMO is the key as I suspect it has a number of effects, firstly lower stall speed and secondly a more progressive stall (plenty of elevator authority) so you can put it down just when you want. Worth holding it off, but better to settle it rather than stall and dump it. Digressing a bit as I have a Acrowot with Laser 70 (spot on target weight and never damaged the UC), but have noticed a few with larger/much larger than recommended engines and they come in like runaway steam trains, usually breaking the UC. Back to me whinging on about not adding unnecessary weight! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 TBH folks who don't usually belly land their models do often get unnecessarily worried about breaking a prop every flight. We've seen it repeatedly on this forum, but honestly it's nothing to get concerned about. In reality you can have hundreds of belly landing and not break a prop, but then you might find that you break two in a day. It's not a big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Had loads of chuck models, only time you break one is when you've no spare one. 😉 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 The other thing that will help a soft landing is some wind as you can really slow the model down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davies 3 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 A low stall speed is key. My Cambrian spitfire ate props for breakfast. I'm sure it could get through two per flight. One reason was the speed it came in at. You couldn't dot it down at the point of stall, as it's flight speed range was quite narrow. It also had very little 'lower fuselage' below the thrustline, so nothing to absorb a bit of energy before the prop touched. It's the only 'fling and flop' model I've had that broke props. Generally, it's not something I ever worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson 4 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: The other thing that will help a soft landing is some wind as you can really slow the model down. Just don't follow through..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 Tempting fate here, i have never had a broken prop on my Cambrian 109 Funfighter, probably helped by the fact i lightened it at the rear end and built it with a fixed rudder to save the extra servo weight, it is quite light compared to the usual FF models so landing speed is slowed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Paul Johnson 4 said: Just don't follow through..... Cleared for landing? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson 4 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Ron Gray said: Cleared for landing? Probably a flight log... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Close to stool speed, sorry stall speed, is good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 My Balsacraft 48" Spitfire stopped breaking props when I switched from my usual ACPe to a 2 bladed Graupner cam prop. Lovely model by the way, just like Richard's new warbirds, very light no undercarriage or flaps or rudder, pity they don't make them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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