andrew exton Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Posted by stu knowles on 15/03/2019 20:14:59: This ad cropped up in a thread on here a while ago. I have an unflown Cutlass from this kit in the garage, thats interesting stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Posted by PatMc on 15/03/2019 21:42:24: Posted by Andrew Ray on 15/03/2019 20:32:52: Posted by Bob Cotsford on 15/03/2019 10:58:32: Anyone remember the big St Leonards Models kits? There was a 120" thermal soarer, fibreglass fus and built up wing, was it the SuperNova? My first taste of what a good soarer was like. Jim Baguely of free flight fame. I don't remember the fibreglass fuselage but I am building a 124" one with the wooden fuselage and changing the wing joiner to a flat steel strip, I thought the design was quite clever, very light with the 1/16" x 1/2" spruce spars at the surface butted up to the D box sheeting The free flight heritage very much evident in the design. Andrew, the 1/16 x 1/4 spruce spars are not up to the job, they rely on the vertical 1/16 balsa webs. Trouble is the wings flex under load which stresses the joints between the web & spar. There just isn't enough glue area on these joints [also I suspect the glue doesn't penetrate such a thin spruce edge] This can result in the webs becoming popping of the spars which are too thin to take the stress so collapse. My kit definitely had a g/f fuselage in the box, and I could have sworn that the spars were 1/2*1/16" spruce tapered on the tip panel, not 1/4"! Maybe mine was a later, upgraded kit? It seemed sturdy enough for some fairly brutal bungee launches. I would have said that the big weakness was in the use of round wire joiners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddock, VC Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 In view of the resurgence of the Scots in the Calcutta Cup, I dedicate this old ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Posted by andrew exton on 16/03/2019 10:01:11: Posted by stu knowles on 15/03/2019 20:14:59: This ad cropped up in a thread on here a while ago. I have an unflown Cutlass from this kit in the garage, thats interesting stuart I assume you mean the aeroplane Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightflyer Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 It is intereting hearing all the other forum members comments on here and it also makes me wonder in the same light and following on from James May's Big Trouble in Model Britain how many of these models fall into forum members stash of kits that me the the requirements of SABLE? I have a few older kits either complete or part built such as DB Models Tiger Moth, Balsacraft FW190 Phoenix CAP232 (though this is finally being put together and converted to electric power for this year), Simprop Excel to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick reeves 1 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 i know this thread is nearly a year old but Soar Ahead Sailplanes traditional (non epp) kits are being reintroduced. More in here www.njrmodelling.co.uk and on the facebook page here Cheers Nick Edited By nick reeves 1 on 15/02/2020 19:15:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Posted by Bob Cotsford on 16/03/2019 10:41:47: Posted by PatMc on 15/03/2019 21:42:24: Posted by Andrew Ray on 15/03/2019 20:32:52: Posted by Bob Cotsford on 15/03/2019 10:58:32: Anyone remember the big St Leonards Models kits? There was a 120" thermal soarer, fibreglass fus and built up wing, was it the SuperNova? My first taste of what a good soarer was like. Jim Baguely of free flight fame. I don't remember the fibreglass fuselage but I am building a 124" one with the wooden fuselage and changing the wing joiner to a flat steel strip, I thought the design was quite clever, very light with the 1/16" x 1/2" spruce spars at the surface butted up to the D box sheeting The free flight heritage very much evident in the design. Andrew, the 1/16 x 1/4 spruce spars are not up to the job, they rely on the vertical 1/16 balsa webs. Trouble is the wings flex under load which stresses the joints between the web & spar. There just isn't enough glue area on these joints [also I suspect the glue doesn't penetrate such a thin spruce edge] This can result in the webs becoming popping of the spars which are too thin to take the stress so collapse. My kit definitely had a g/f fuselage in the box, and I could have sworn that the spars were 1/2*1/16" spruce tapered on the tip panel, not 1/4"! Maybe mine was a later, upgraded kit? It seemed sturdy enough for some fairly brutal bungee launches. I would have said that the big weakness was in the use of round wire joiners How's this for an example, it was given ot our club a couple of years back. All original with Fleet 27MHZ gear and looking a bir sorry for it self. I took it home undone some a bad mods to put it back as original, replaced the the radio and built an electirc convertion. I have had some very nice flying with it sine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Dyer Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Aahhh....memories!!. I too had a UK SE5a on a Enya 19, three channel. My second RC model back in 1976. Wish I'd kept the plan. Maury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 comeback Flair asap..... ken anderson...ne..1..flair dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Posted by Maurice Dyer on 26/04/2020 09:32:42: Aahhh....memories!!. I too had a UK SE5a on a Enya 19, three channel. My second RC model back in 1976. Wish I'd kept the plan. Maury You can get copies of the KK SE5a plan. Derick Scott who operates Model Plans website has one as I bought a copy a few years ago. It's not listed on the KK section of his website, but if you email him he will sort you out. His prices are very reasonable too. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I was given an old Bowman Kit’s Simply Sailman kit (part started) last year by an old friend (thanks Andy!) he was having a clear out and this one had to go. Some how I ended up taking it home. A wasn’t going to do anything with it, but as I’ve been enjoying flying my Super Nover I’ve decided I’ll finish the Sailman. Another old friend had one in the 70’s and would regularly beat everyone in our club competition with it! So this is next up on the building board. One thing I could do with is a copy of sheet 1 that hasn’t faded if anyone got one? Ive managed to go over a lot of the plan with a pen but there are some notes that are to far gone to see. I’m hopping I can figure out these bit myself anyway but if someone still has a copy I’d be interested to see what it said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Colbourne Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If you had the KeilKraft Handbook in your youth, you probably drooled over their 'Intruder' F3a pattern ship. 72" span for 10cc engines and 'full house' radio... The stuff dreams are made of! That picture in the Handbook was the only sight I had ever had of this mythical beast... ...until now... That twin exhaust tail looked familiar, although the canopy line has been changed to make it more Curare-ish. KeilKraft Intruder - F3a Pattern Model Edited By Robin Colbourne on 30/05/2020 23:04:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Been looking for this add for some time to go with my current build. RCM&E January 1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Colbourne Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Whilst people with memories of the models and manufacturers are still around, it would be really good if a database of British R/C models and manufacturers over the years could be compiled. It would be great if we could capture some history on the people behind the models as well as the development and manufacture of the aircraft themselves. Clearly this would be a lot of work, and it would be ideal if it could be in a format in which anyone could add to it, with a moderator checking submissions. Is there any such software that would allow this? I'm aware of Outerzone, whcih is really good, but something more like http://wiki.rc-network.de. I have a mystery aerobatic slope soarer kit, called a Sidewinder. I think my brother bought at a Sandown Expo in the late 70s or early 80s. It has a fibreglass fuselage & foam wing and a hand drawn and copied plan. There is no manufacturer's name or address though. Has anyone ever heard of it? Where was it made and by whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Dyer Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Don't remember the sidewinder; but back in the days, there were lots of home grown cottage industries banging out small runs of models sold at Sandown, Woodvale and Plumpton etc. Miss those shows so much. Real British RC modelling............with the dulcite tones of old DB...😂 Maurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Parsons 1 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I love the cover picture of that plane. Anyone remember D and D Models in Hereford? There was a kit of a D and D lightning on eBay last week. It got me thinking. They also did the eze fli and the Viper. The Viper was like a Weston Magnum. I suspect the eze fli was an American Kaos Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tee Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I have 3 Pat French models in the loft. From the same period, Howard Metcalf models john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Parsons 1 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Lovely A Pat French Zlin Id go with one of those. I had one and crashed it due to aileron flutter. The Boden cable linkage was very poor. Today you would use a servo a side and put a 50cc engine in it! Or the PFM Firecracker. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 The Zlin is available again............ **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 It's been bugging me that I can't find anything to identify a model that I built in around 1975/6 in the old magazines I've looked through. It was a jet style pusher with a tricycle undercarriage and I'm sure the kit was regularly advertised in one or more of the magazines. All I can say is that it was sleeker than a Gnatty and I still bear the scars from the pusher prop while adjusting the mixture on the Veco 19 which wasn't quite powerful enough to get off a bumpy Croxley Moor patch without the assistance of a glider bungee - but that was another story... Any suggestions welcomed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Dyer Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I always lusted a PFM firecracker, having worked on the real one. But I drew my own smaller version for a .40. Flew ok but would tip stall unless you came in at mach 3. Despite the hoenher tips. Maurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Spark Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I recently bought a second-hand JB Aviation Merlin but can't find any information on CoG and control surface throws. I could "wing it" of course but would prefer a safer journey into the air and back to terra firma. Any info will be most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Spark Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I should have mentioned the JB advert from 2002 is on screen #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Cunnington Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Cotswold Kits Bantam, just finished mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Cunnington Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 After the Bantam, now just started a Cambrian Bumble Bee : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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