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Warbirds Replicas FW190 - the 2023 version


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Great Job on the Video Ron . There are a couple of things I should make clearer if there is another production run later in the year .

Lipo man has also done a very good "stills" build which I think proves the point that it is straightforward and pretty much anyone that can build an Ikea coffee table could make one. Dave B ,also , from a more experienced stand point is doing a more advanced version . Which will appeal to the veterans . 

I wonder if all of the lads are aware that you are doing the Video ? I get notifications of inputs from the various build threads but it seems a bit intermittent . 

Is it possible to put a signpost link on all of the build threads to the video ? I just think that for any newbies who are watching form the outside , the wealth of content and slight (interesting ) deviations might mean that they miss the video which really does include way more step by step for a newcomer. 

Perhaps John Stones has a view on this ?

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Thanks Richard. I think that would be a good idea, as you have pointed out, the videos are really aimed at the complete building novice and are probably too ‘boring’ for those with more build experience. I am also trying to keep it to the materials provided in the kit rather than use bits from my stock as newbies just won’t have alternatives readily available. Likewise with the electronics, although I have shown an eFlite Power 25 motor as the motor I will be using, I have ordered an Overlander 3548 as these are relatively cheap and easy to come by.

 

I will also be trying to stop myself adding ‘scale complexity’ where it involves a lot of extra work as a newbie will be keen to get it up in the air asap.

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Ron,

You have done an excellent job on the build videos and the hints and tips thread. Very informative even for those who have built models before. There is always more than one way to skin a cat (although I have not done that myself)!

I will be following your thread as I progress with my build.

Thanks.

Gordon

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Felt even colder in there this afternoon/ evening so not a lot of progress but there is enough fir the next video. I spent quite a bit of time deliberating over the battery fit, or to be more precise will it fit? I aim to use my 4s 3700 of which I have quite a few and on first looks I thought that I might have to turn the gun blister into the battery access hatch. On further investigation I think that it will just fit as Richard intended.

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1 hour ago, Ron Gray said:

Felt even colder in there this afternoon/ evening so not a lot of progress but there is enough fir the next video. I spent quite a bit of time deliberating over the battery fit, or to be more precise will it fit? I aim to use my 4s 3700 of which I have quite a few and on first looks I thought that I might have to turn the gun blister into the battery access hatch. On further investigation I think that it will just fit as Richard intended.

It has just dawned on me that I haven’t checked to see if my batteries will fit. They’re all small (2600 4s) so shouldn’t be an issue, but I’d better go check! Oops.  😳

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For those who thought we had forgotten you and those who are still awake this is how we developed the retract unit for the FW190.

The cutting profiles used where imported in CAD as a 2 dimensional drawing in the form of a DXF file. The Wing Root and the Wing Tip. The Tip is rotated the correct amount for the washout chosen.781861493_Screenshot2024-04-17175836.thumb.png.3b195bf313f836ded9801367dfe6b267.png

The outer Profile is then moved the correct distance from the Root Profile.

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This is then 'Lofted' as a solid 3D object which is the cut foam core without the wing skin.1106654569_Screenshot2024-04-17175922.thumb.png.bacc8b2aa2c8b213b9d4ee669e86c6d2.png

Next two planes are created across the wing to create a section that the retract plate/assembly will go in.

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These plans are used to perform a 'cut' of the wing to create a section of ribs to support the retracts firmly in place

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These sections are then given a thickness equal to the ply to be used to create these 'Ribs'

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7 minutes ago, Paul Johnson 4 said:

For those who thought we had forgotten you and those who are still awake this is how we developed the retract unit for the FW190.

The cutting profiles used where imported in CAD as a 2 dimensional drawing in the form of a DXF file. The Wing Root and the Wing Tip. The Tip is rotated the correct amount for the washout chosen.781861493_Screenshot2024-04-17175836.thumb.png.3b195bf313f836ded9801367dfe6b267.png

The outer Profile is then moved the correct distance from the Root Profile.

2022655739_Screenshot2024-04-17175855.thumb.png.61b31975fb5269429da5dadc625b512c.png

This is then 'Lofted' as a solid 3D object which is the cut foam core without the wing skin.1106654569_Screenshot2024-04-17175922.thumb.png.bacc8b2aa2c8b213b9d4ee669e86c6d2.png

Next two planes are created across the wing to create a section that the retract plate/assembly will go in.

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782142484_Screenshot2024-04-17180104.thumb.png.4c868813babf50e7b6b832011c716c3f.png

705942075_Screenshot2024-04-17180134.thumb.png.8e57dfbb2951af819fa34c91d6e61971.png

These plans are used to perform a 'cut' of the wing to create a section of ribs to support the retracts firmly in place

723142074_Screenshot2024-04-17180249.thumb.png.e317c4e5ab349d03b836cc0cca3d1baa.png

1477739940_Screenshot2024-04-17180542.thumb.png.ac542bb293ffbdd9c6aedd646feeda9d.png

These sections are then given a thickness equal to the ply to be used to create these 'Ribs'

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Very much looking forward to fitting these to my own little Focker, and it’s fascinating to see the design process. Looks like the use of CAD adds the precision my build skills can’t manage!

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From this I can now create a plate the correct width and length to mount the retract unit on. Small tabs are added to interlock the completed assembly.

A drawing is created for the retract cut out based on the manufacturers drawing dimensions.

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This is then turned into a solid part.

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This part is placed into the mounting plate rotated to the correct angle .

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And a cut performed to create the finished section.

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The upright supports are created as a 3D model

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And the assembled unit is placed at the correct angle between the the ribs.

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Again a cut is performed 

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The mounting plate is 're-assembled' and a further cut made to allow for the body of the retract unit.

 

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A Mock up retract unit with the U/C wire is then placed in position  to ensure fit.

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On top of this a drawing is made to create a cut out template to make your lives easier to cut out the wheel well.

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the unit is designed to be fitted up to the top skin and up to the leading edge.

 

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All these parts are then Re-exported as DXF files and sent to the Kit cutter for laser cutting.

Richard will do a blog on fitting the first one to create a guide for you to follow.

He'll probably use a chain saw so anything could happen there!

 

 

The same process is also being used to create the Tempests units.

NOW can I have my sock Master?

 

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That's great timing Paul - my FW190 fuselage is taking shape and I will shortly be moving onto the wing. If these are available soon, maybe I'll be able to opt for going direct to retracts, bypassing the dolly stage. 😎👍

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Thanks Paul, looks good. Has Richard announced anything regarding availability of the retracts for the 190 or possible prices on one of the related threads? I have lost track I am afraid of which thread is which - I think its my age!!! 😶 Mine is getting to painting stage and would like to get any chopping about done before then if possible 🙂.

Cheers, Simon

 

 

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