Dale Bradly Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 https://www.ebay.com/itm/166595925546 One of these is the best starter I've owned. Two different buttons to give you options. Starts anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Dale Bradly said: One of these is the best starter I've owned. Two different buttons to give you options. Starts anything. That's what I posted,,, maybe one of these 1/8 car starters, plenty of options about, but you will have to make a cone for planes as it is delivered with a shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 Glad to have started what seems to be a useful topic but its done its job for me so I won't be reviewing future posts many thanks guys - really helpful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It’s a shame if you don’t see what might be the answer to your problem - I dug out what’s left of my old hands free system earlier to photograph it. In case it’s of interest to anyone, this proved very effective - it mounted on tripod legs with a support frame to hold the model ready for a simple push forward for instant action but would function equally well sitting high enough from the ground for your models. Detail of sliding tray mounted on drawer runners, return spring and contact breaker to energise the starter under pressure from the spinner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Does it come with a 2" or 50mm ball hitch ?.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It's the size of a small trailer,,😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Wouldn't be allowed at my club - ic models must be restrained for starting.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I think you'd be able to argue that, with the exception of a pusher, there's no chance of it moving forwards - and you could still run a retaining strap around the tail or add retaining posts if your club's safety officer is a pedant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Does it come with a 2" or 50mm ball hitch ?.😂 7 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: ? 6 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: It's the size of a small trailer,,😄 Ah, now I see 😉 Actually, it's less than 2' square. (600mm to you!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hearnden 1 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If it doesn't hand start then I don't keep it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Jim Hearnden 1 said: If it doesn't hand start then I don't keep it Getting Arthritis in your hands could change that view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hearnden 1 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: Getting Arthritis in your hands could change that view. Quite possibly. Although someone came over with a power boat with an SC91 he couldn't start. I found using a starter to get it going a fair struggle. Having small hands & a Sullivan on 24V was a challenge. I got it going for him, not sure the old leather boot lace would have managed to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryW Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) One thing I've found over the years, is the more you use a starter on engines the more they become dependant on them to the point that in the end the only way they will start is with a starter..... I usually start my engines by hand as much as possible except for helicopters & stubborn 4 Strokes..... How i usually start engines, is prime them up with afew turns of the prop with my finger/thumb over the carb followed by 2-3 flicks , then with throttle at tick over, bounce the prop between the compression points as if I'm clicking my fingers and they usually start within a few bounces..... saves getting ur fingers whacked even with a chicken finger on Edited February 25 by GaryW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 21 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: It’s a shame if you don’t see what might be the answer to your problem - I dug out what’s left of my old hands free system earlier to photograph it. In case it’s of interest to anyone, this proved very effective - it mounted on tripod legs with a support frame to hold the model ready for a simple push forward for instant action but would function equally well sitting high enough from the ground for your models. Detail of sliding tray mounted on drawer runners, return spring and contact breaker to energise the starter under pressure from the spinner. I like that. Really good thinking. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 18 hours ago, GrumpyGnome said: Wouldn't be allowed at my club - ic models must be restrained for starting.... Ida thunk that if you're holding the plane to push it against the starter, then you are restraining it! Or does your Club insist that 'planes must be kept on a leash at all times'. 😁. The JE-type geared starter is just fine and as the weather is so crepe, I'm going to pop out to the workshop and adapt mine for LiPo operation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 3 hours ago, Mike T said: Ida thunk that if you're holding the plane to push it against the starter, then you are restraining it! Or does your Club insist that 'planes must be kept on a leash at all times'. 😁. So, you hold the model in 2 hands, and push it against the device; engine starts; you are now holding it in 2 hands with a running engine. Where's the transmitter? Is it just dangling around ones neck the whole time? Or do you start it, then put it on the ground, retrained, while you pick up the transmitter? (Gosh, I'm living up to my moniker! It looks a useful solution provided proper care is taken....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Various ways round it. My own technique (for its specialised use) was to leave the transmitter on the ground to the left of the starter, run to the model from the scramble, push it into the cone, pick it up by the fuselage, flick off the glow with my left hand on the way to grabbing the tranny, whack the throttle open, step forward to the line and lob it underarm. All done from the far safer position of being behind the propeller. Neckstrap? Work of the devil and responsible for countless injuries and incidents. More typically, a model with an undercarriage withdrawn a few inches shouldn’t go anywhere at tickover and would stop if it moved forwards into the pretty resilient starter box. So it’s effectively restrained from going anywhere. There would be nothing stopping you from withdrawing it to a conventional restraint either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cooper Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Another vote here for the Just Engines geared starter. It is quite small and light, plus the trigger light too. It can be run on a 3 or 4 cell lipo which makes the whole right even lighter (note need for a hefty battery). As for its power, it will easily out-perform a heavy Sullivan-type starter. Mine will happily turn an 80cc engine with surprising enthusiasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Chandrayan Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 24/02/2024 at 00:07, Richard Wills 2 said: https://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4952 I use one of these now, has a 3s 2200 internally. Starts everything including my Moki 210 glow. Starting planes sits nicely in the hand and little finger sits on the switch. Highly recommend, been using this for almost a decade now. Light weight for single hand operation. Has on board battery level indicator, starts up to 50cc petrol engines. If I were to criticise, the only point would be the internal battery connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Wolfe Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 25/02/2024 at 03:46, Martin Harris - Moderator said: It’s a shame if you don’t see what might be the answer to your problem - I dug out what’s left of my old hands free system earlier to photograph it. In case it’s of interest to anyone, this proved very effective - it mounted on tripod legs with a support frame to hold the model ready for a simple push forward for instant action but would function equally well sitting high enough from the ground for your models. Detail of sliding tray mounted on drawer runners, return spring and contact breaker to energise the starter under pressure from the spinner. Actually, that's just like what the serious Free Flight F1C flyers have been using for over a decade. Incoming thermal detected, glow on, push, disconnect glow and launch. Quite handy for use with folding props on a screaming .15 doing 20K+ RPM 🙃 * Chris * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 Old Sullivan now sold so new JE (the smaller version) now ordered Thanks for all your help guys. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 On 01/03/2024 at 11:16, Halsey said: Old Sullivan now sold so new JE (the smaller version) now ordered Thanks for all your help guys. J New JE starter arrived and VERY pleased - just the job ergonomically much better than the Sullivan for my hands and a nice light touch switch - thanks to all (incl Just Engines) for your help J 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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