Ron Gray Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Yesterday we travelled about 60 miles to the rented cottage where we’re staying for the next few days on hols. I’ve brought the eBikes so they were sitting on the towbar carrier for the journey here. Previously, with the Toyota, I noticed that the fuel consumption when carrying the eBikes dropped by 8 - 10 mpg, which I put down to extra weight (obvs) and aerodynamics but this journey in the Ioniq showed not much of a change. If I was being super critical I would say that it was down by 0.1 miles/kWh (4 ish mpg). Not that it’s a problem on hols as a) we only use the eBikes whilst we’re here and b) the cottage has an EV charger which is free to use so we now have a fully charged pack! Edited September 23, 2023 by Ron Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: Yesterday we travelled about 60 miles to the rented cottage where we’re staying for the next few days on hols. I’ve brought the eBikes so they were sitting on the towbar carrier for the journey here. Previously, with the Toyota, I noticed that the fuel consumption when carrying the eBikes dropped by 8 - 10 mpg, which I put down to extra weight (obvs) and aerodynamics but this journey in the Ioniq showed not much of a change. If I was being super critical I would say that it was down by 0.1 miles/kWh (4 ish mpg). Not that it’s a problem on hols as a) we only use the eBikes whilst we’re here and b) the cottage has an EV charger which is free to use so we now have a fully charged pack! Probably more to the changes between the vehicle aerodynamics with the bikes than the different propulsion, the bikes affected the drag of the Toyota far more than your current EV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDD15 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Just back from our EV tour of Bucks, Kent and Oxfordshire. Around 800 miles covered with the longest legs being out(150m) and back(163m) and the Born never missed a beat. On those longer journeys the car averaged 4.6m/kWh at motorway speeds so easily 240 to 260 mile range if pushed. I know we can all get a bit hung up on EV range, but the longest journeys in terms of time/distance covered where the two trips around the M25. My first time on it in over ten years, hated it then and loath it now! I pity the poor souls using it every day. Rapid charged once on the way down when we stopped for a comfort break at Moto Rugby. Did not need to but old 30kWh Leaf habits die hard and half the chargers were not being used mid morning! Second time was at a pub near Hastings for an evening meal on our way back from visiting Rye and Dungeness. The pub had three new rapid 75kW chargers all of which were available on arrival. Rest of the time we used the fast chargers at the properties we stayed at to charge overnight, dead easy and no stress. A bit of planning beforehand using Zap Map to find accommodation with chargers makes EV touring no different to when we had an ICE car. First ever visit to Kent and really liked it, especially the frequent flypasts over our holiday cottage of Spitfires and Tiger Moths which I'm guessing were doing air experience flights from Biggin Hill(?). idd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I didn't realise that to get green electricity you have to plug your car into a hedge😄 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 43 minutes ago, IDD15 said: .................................... A bit of planning beforehand using Zap Map to find accommodation with chargers makes EV touring no different to when we had an ICE car. ............................................. That is one of my big problems with electric range - you seem to have to build your plans around the car's requirements not yours. A couple of hotels we use regularly don't have any public chargers within 18 miles according to Zap Map (we like more remote places), and we rarely stop at motorway type service stations on a journey but turn off for a packed lunch with a view or use country pubs or National Trust properties where I have never seen any chargers. I know it will change with time and I would love an electric car (had some test drives recently) but can't make it work for me, so I have just replaced my 12 year old diesel with a newer second-hand one in the hope that range and charging infrastructure will have improved in a few years time. Dick ps A salesman at a main dealer while showing me a car with a WLTP range of 360 miles expressed doubt when I asked if it would reliably do a 260mile round trip at motorway speeds at any time of the year (my minimum ask) - perhaps he was wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 National Trust properties are getting charging points (some already have them) https://transportandenergy.com/2023/04/17/raw-charging-to-deliver-ev-charging-across-national-trust-sites/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Walsh Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: National Trust properties are getting charging points (some already have them) https://transportandenergy.com/2023/04/17/raw-charging-to-deliver-ev-charging-across-national-trust-sites/ At least one local National Trust property has had charging points for a number of years. They were 7 Kw chargers and were free to use. Then the price of electricity (and presumably the number of EVs using them) increased and they were "unavailable". I think they may have been removed a while ago, presumably they were costing too much to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The NT property at Wimpole Farm (Cambridgeshire) has about eight, maybe more, chargers which were, maybe still are, free to use. We used one a few months back. However, we visited again during some of the hot weather we had in June and they were all out of action. When I enquired at the reception area as we went in the very - disinterested - person replied that she thought that it was because "it was too hot"!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 0% apr on Tesla model 3 finishes end of Sept, dont miss out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I can't understand why in France, gas fuelled cars are not allowed in some underground car parks while electrics cars are. https://www.midilibre.fr/2023/09/28/video-une-puissante-explosion-retentit-pres-de-laeroport-de-tachkent-en-ouzbekistan-11483430.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Fumes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: Fumes? Seems pretty obvious to me! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ron Gray said: Fumes? Are you talking about petrol fumes ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Bullit Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Don`t want to worry anybody but..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Doesn't worry me. https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Bullit Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Probably should be more worried about extinguishing the fire I guess..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I'll cross that bridge in the unlikely event I come to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 When our forefathers were transitioning from horses to petrol engines they probably had similar dilemmas as folk do these days about electric cars I wonder if they agonised over the lack of petrol stations and thought they they could park a horse on any old verge and let it fill up and not have to find a petrol station that were very rare at the time. They probably agonised that horses didn't self combust in a ball of flames like petrol cars! Just a thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I understand that petrol was obtained via chemist’s shops in the early days - hence the large numbers of “Pratt’s Spirit”, “Shell” and other petrol cans seen in antique and collectibles emporia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 and they didn't have to worry about breaking the 20mph speed limit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Martian said: and they didn't have to worry about breaking the 20mph speed limit But they did have the man with the red flag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Outrunner said: When our forefathers were transitioning from horses to petrol engines they probably had similar dilemmas as folk do these days about electric cars I wonder if they agonised over the lack of petrol stations and thought they they could park a horse on any old verge and let it fill up and not have to find a petrol station that were very rare at the time. They probably agonised that horses didn't self combust in a ball of flames like petrol cars! Just a thought. The thing with horses is you have to look after them and fuel them every day. You can not just park them up. Recon it's horses for courses.😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Tyres only last a few weeks too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) Arrrrr, but when dun with, nice curry. Also on an educational note, Napoleon, on his invasion of Russia, planned to do the job when oats were available for the dobbins, by plunder. Wet seasion, no oats , and his army was short of dobbins. Makes range anxiety pale to nowt. Edited September 28, 2023 by Don Fry History 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Outrunner said: When our forefathers were transitioning from horses to petrol engines they probably had similar dilemmas as folk do these days about electric cars I wonder if they agonised over the lack of petrol stations and thought they they could park a horse on any old verge and let it fill up and not have to find a petrol station that were very rare at the time. They probably agonised that horses didn't self combust in a ball of flames like petrol cars! Just a thought. Afford a car, send a lacky to find some, while you get down the pub. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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