Chris Walby Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 This is one of my all time favorites, what's not to like about a twin being given a good a work out.....could be topped by a pair of Merlins    Unless of course you know better? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Thx for sharing Chris.  It never ceases to amaze me, how clever / brave full size pilots are!.  Number one, I would never be able to master such a beast as this.  Number two, I would be petrified that one of those wing tips would fold in flight.  I have had a couple of "goes on the sticks" of full size aircraft, (AT6 Texan / Icarus Microlight / glider), and on both occasions it was flying me, not the other way round.  Apart from suffering violent motion sickness (I can feel it now, just writing this), thats probably why I have stuck with RC models for  50 years +!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) "Deadstick!" Â at 5:50 (ish) Â Â Edited January 3, 2023 by Nigel R 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) It looked like something came off the plane during the Lomcovák manoeuvre at about 3:20, I'm surprised the pilot didn't realise there was something wrong at that point.  Edited January 3, 2023 by Andy Stephenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I hope he bought a lottery ticket on his way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 The last display by the Vulcan at RAF Brawdy when still in RAF service. Crew just pulled out all the stops, wish I had a video of it.  Low level full power turns looked within the field boundary. Body shaking noise that left every car that had an alarm in the car park going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, J D 8 said: The last display by the Vulcan at RAF Brawdy when still in RAF service. Crew just pulled out all the stops, wish I had a video of it.  Low level full power turns looked within the field boundary. Body shaking noise that left every car that had an alarm in the car park going. My dad used to take me to the Battle of Britain displays at RAF Coltishall during the. 1960s. Half a dozen Vulcans and Victors all demontrating a QRA.......earth shattering racket that really did shake your innards. The unearthly howl from the Victors' Conways at full chat was unforgettable and cannot be reproduced by recordings to anything like the real thing, sadly. All much closer to the crowd than the flying is today of course. Edited January 3, 2023 by Cuban8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Yak-52 at Sleap air show - after his full aerobatic routine the pilot made a full length very low downwind pass down the runway, pulled up into a 45 degree climb, half rolled, lowered his gear into a split-S and landed in one smooth manoeuvre. Gobsmacked.  I only have the very low resolution tiny video clip that I posted of it in the early noughties, years before You Tube was a thing, and where only the smallest of video clips could be put online but you'll get the idea. yaklandavi.avi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Taylor Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 hours ago, J D 8 said: The last display by the Vulcan at RAF Brawdy when still in RAF service. Crew just pulled out all the stops, wish I had a video of it.  Low level full power turns looked within the field boundary. Body shaking noise that left every car that had an alarm in the car park going. I was working at RAF Odiham, probably on the same day as above, when the Vulcan was doing a 'farewell tour' of all of its operational bases. As said, incredible noise / spectacle. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 He must have ended up on a charge. I can't imagine that maneuver is even listed in the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Regular airshow display by the pilot. Â Health and safety isn't what it once was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I suppose you get away with it with an AR of 2.45:1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Mind you, the Starfighter had more wheel area than wing area!🤣  One diverted into Coltishall when I was serving there. It was so low to the ground that I could stand on the pan and look over the cockpit sill into the cockpit! Landing at 200 mph+ that close to the ground must have been impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Not sure I would aspire to fly anything that had gained the nickname of "Widowmaker". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I believe the problem was identified as the fact that Luftwaffe pilots who converted to the F104 in the US in excellent weather. On returning to Germany they had to deal with a lot more cloud and inclement weather while handling an aircraft with a very high landing speed.  So the epithet widow maker was really a combination of 2 factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Famous joke form the 80s in RAF messes around the country…  Q. What’s the quickest way to get hold of a Starfighter?  A. Buy a field in Germany and wait….! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Quite so, I remember it well. What I've stated is probably a major cause of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john davidson 1 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I recall there was a problem with the engines for a time, the German in charge was dismissed and the new man grounded all 104s until they had a solution.Must have saved a few lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I heard an F104 pilot say that if you lost the engine at 18,000 ft over the runway threshold, you had sufficient height to do an immediate 360 deg turn before having to flare for landing!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 turn the volume up to 11 Â Â 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Colbourne Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The Sukhoi 26 was flown at the Farnborough Airshow by a female pilot, probably late 1980s or early 1990s. She took it up into a prop hang over the runway, then, still in a prop hang, took it down the length of the runway slowly revolving on its longitudinal axis. The commentator simply said, "Aeroplanes aren't meant to be able to do that". I wish I could find a video of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Svetlana+Kapanina+Death&&view=detail&mid=B9F6AD8BDF5807483A20B9F6AD8BDF5807483A20&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DSvetlana%2BKapanina%2BDeath%26FORM%3DRESTAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Wolfe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 22:38, J D 8 said: The last display by the Vulcan at RAF Brawdy when still in RAF service. Crew just pulled out all the stops, wish I had a video of it.  Low level full power turns looked within the field boundary. Body shaking noise that left every car that had an alarm in the car park going. I was once snorkeling with a mate in the Mediterranean close to the end of the runway at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.  As we swum along the bottom the sky went dark and we could feel vibrations and I thought it was an earthquake.  We surfaced to be looking up the tailpipes of a RAF Vulcan that had just departed right over us. Bags of black smoke and a deafening roar - unforgettable.  Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 The best 'sound' I ever witnessed was at Duxford around 20 years ago around 12 P51's flying head to tail and the singing of the props in the dive with the RR engines thundering away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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