leccyflyer Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 From the information I've seen it would appear that the virus can survive for several hours on hard surfaces so your scenario of being able to pass it on through things like gates, combination locks, chairs left at the field sounds entirely plausible. It's why the bus companies are giving advice about the bits on the bus that people commonly touch such as hand rails and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 It says 72 hrs on things like steel, guess it varies on your google search. We're all tough guys, knock lumps off each other over stupid stuff on here, be careful, you'll never forgive yourself if you take something home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Crook Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Thats why I use hand wipes after handling locks, gates etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by john stones 1 on 20/03/2020 07:17:15: It says 72 hrs on things like steel, guess it varies on your google search. We're all tough guys, knock lumps off each other over stupid stuff on here, be careful, you'll never forgive yourself if you take something home. With all my planning and preparation to go out flying John, I never thought of that one. Many thanks for that. Going out now needs very careful consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 If you're gonna go, get organised and take the right steps, talk to each other, be careful please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I see that in Suffolk the Cirus cases have inceased by 30%. There are four people with it. Somehow I doubt if anyof them are trying to open the gate to our flying field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 That's the thing though - for every case which has been diagnosed or tested positive it is estimated that there is at least on, possibly even two orders pf magnitude more undiagnosed cases, That's what the data from China and Italy has shown - where the number of positively identified cases on a given day can be compared with the number of people subsequently found to have had the virus at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter Miller Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by leccyflyer on 20/03/2020 08:41:48: That's the thing though - for every case which has been diagnosed or tested positive it is estimated that there is at least on, possibly even two orders pf magnitude more undiagnosed cases, That's what the data from China and Italy has shown - where the number of positively identified cases on a given day can be compared with the number of people subsequently found to have had the virus at that time. You mean that there might be twelve cases in SuffolK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I wiped the lock down on entering and leaving, then washed my hands. Wipes went in a bag that I took home and binned. Can't be too careful and yes, we all need to look after ourselves and others. Chairs, tables etc should be OK if you just touch your own that's been out in the elements for a while before use surely? Daft thing is, I went to a shop on the way home, which didn't have automatic doors. Now that is a high risk! Washing started again afterwards. Edited By Gary Manuel on 20/03/2020 09:29:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by Peter Miller on 20/03/2020 09:03:00: Posted by leccyflyer on 20/03/2020 08:41:48: That's the thing though - for every case which has been diagnosed or tested positive it is estimated that there is at least on, possibly even two orders pf magnitude more undiagnosed cases, That's what the data from China and Italy has shown - where the number of positively identified cases on a given day can be compared with the number of people subsequently found to have had the virus at that time. You mean that there might be twelve cases in SuffolK I mean that nobody really has any real idea of how many people are infected in Suffolk, or in your own club. So imagining that the fact there are only four confirmed cases in Suffolk means that you can have a false sense of security that it is vanishingly unlikely that anyone will have touched the hard surfaces at your club is exactly the sort of thing that should be avoided. In the case of an order of magnitude underestimation from what you presented that would make 40 cases in Suffolk, whilst for two orders of magnitude it would be 400. The reality is that we just don't know for sure. You'll have seen the results of that sort of analysis a couple of weeks ago when with in the order of a hundred confirmed cases the government were warning that the likelyhood was of 5,000 -10,000 actual cases out there. Edited By leccyflyer on 20/03/2020 09:42:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by Gary Manuel on 20/03/2020 09:08:07: I wiped the lock down on entering and leaving, then washed my hands. Wipes went in a bag that I took home and binned. Can't be too careful and yes, we all need to look after ourselves and Well done Gary. The trouble is finding any sterilising wipes or sprays to use ! All cleaning sterilising items shelves at local stores are bare here in south east , not a piece of soap to be found! Lady on the checkout said to us "I wonder what people did for washing before this ,didn't they know about soap" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The four stage strategy ..... Edited By Gary Manuel on 20/03/2020 10:47:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by Engine Doctor on 20/03/2020 10:11:34: Posted by Gary Manuel on 20/03/2020 09:08:07: I wiped the lock down on entering and leaving, then washed my hands. Wipes went in a bag that I took home and binned. Can't be too careful and yes, we all need to look after ourselves and Well done Gary. The trouble is finding any sterilising wipes or sprays to use ! All cleaning sterilising items shelves at local stores are bare here in south east , not a piece of soap to be found! Lady on the checkout said to us "I wonder what people did for washing before this ,didn't they know about soap" Must admit, I only had baby wipes (didn't do any panic buying) but the way I see it, they are better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil67 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I have a large box of hospital style blue gloves from Screwfix which I use when using cyno (wonder why) so very useful at the moment for gates padlocks et al. Our club has cancelled club days and access to clubhouse (big steel box with windows) but advise that members can fly at their own risk. Four of us yesterday morning, light wind, big sun, perfect. Coffee chat, two metres apart with our backs to the wind. Down wind cows in next field didn't look too happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Sounds good to me. Here in my part of Dorset, blooming cold , cloudy and a bit gusty. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Fledermaus Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 As the OP when I announced, just a few days ago, the decision that our club had decided to close it's field, the post was met with a barrage of negative comments like " stupid " and " utterly ludicrous " . Well, is it me, or have the posts become a little more sanguine in the past day or so? Now your fretting over wiping gates and locks, wiping everything down with anti bacterial wipes, and wearing gloves, standing up wind from others. All I can say is good luck fellers, I hope we are all here after its all over to reminisce about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil67 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 We are not fretting just using common sense to remain safe. Do you sterilise your mail before you open it, how many hands have touched it. Probably more dangerous than standing in the middle of a field. The wind comment was meant to be tongue in cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Firstly I wear gloves now when taking the letters out of the letterbox, these are now left until the following day. In the case of an IKEA delivery we had on Thursday, I opened the boxes, removed the items, then immediately took the boxes to our outside waste bins. I remove the gloves as per surgeons, so my hands do not touch the outside of the gloves. Again the gloves are left to the next day in most instances. I did not mention the hand washing, took it for granted. Are these methods virus proof, probably not, although much better than just hoping. Edited By Erfolg on 20/03/2020 16:52:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Folk taking driving lessons, groups of joggers, traffics heavy, Suns out, but been a cold un. Got some gardens done today, MOT in April, couple of my tyres look iffy. Extra hour of daylight coming soon, looking like my own chair, no brainer only me used it, and a spray of some strong stuff for me, question is Funky Cub, but I'll need some fuel run through first, or the Extra, been a while funky Cub I reckon, colds a lot better. Sterilise mail, nope easy to wash yer hands at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Animals have feelings too ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Barclay Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Posted by Stephen Smith 14 on 20/03/2020 20:52:22: Things have got so bad we have banned tongues when kissing other club members. Thats funny I had an email today from a French friend in Brest. Seems the Departement Finnistere has issued guidlines amongs which are " when seeing a friend in the street please do not hug him, shake hands, embrace, or kiss." From my fifteen years experience of living in France I just know they will find this so difficult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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